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Favs trade value is neutral at best.
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If Favors had a team option instead of a player option I would say he has positive (or at least neutral) value, but I just dont know if he does. He seems like a guy who can barely play 20 mpg.
Though I do believe our perception of Favors is extremely tainted by watching him compared to Gobert, but still, I just don't know. I do think the big man value has risen with the rise of elite 1-on-1 post players like Embiid and Jokic, but I dont know if it's enough to make him have positive trade value.
Though I do believe our perception of Favors is extremely tainted by watching him compared to Gobert, but still, I just don't know. I do think the big man value has risen with the rise of elite 1-on-1 post players like Embiid and Jokic, but I dont know if it's enough to make him have positive trade value.
But all it takes is one team and if Utah gave him the contract they gave him, you have to think there was another team willing to come close to that. Favors did have a really solid regular season stats wise. Per 30 minutes he was right around 11-11-2-1-1 on efficient shooting. I think a team like the Lakers could really use him. He gives them what Drummond can give defensively without the terrible offensive decision making and the entitlement of being a starter.
That's the list of free agent centers. There arent any studs available in UFA. Favors is right there with most of these players.
Everyone else is right at replacement level or below though from what I can tell. Favors may be the most solid of all these centers. Maybe someone is willing to take the slight overpay for a reliable 20 mpg center who doesnt have huge holes, but idk.
That's the list of free agent centers. There arent any studs available in UFA. Favors is right there with most of these players.
- Zeller really good, but cant never stay healthy
- Holmes is a rising energy big
- Someone will always be enamored with the talent of Drummond/Whiteside despite them being negatives
- Lopez is reliable but aging
- Boban is fun but cant play a lot
- Kanter is good at what he does and awful at what he doesnt
- Theis is a solid player, probably close to Favors level and some may prefer him for his shooting
Everyone else is right at replacement level or below though from what I can tell. Favors may be the most solid of all these centers. Maybe someone is willing to take the slight overpay for a reliable 20 mpg center who doesnt have huge holes, but idk.
Honestly my first time watching him. He seems twitchier than Sabonis? Obviously the Jazz have no shot at him and they probably would go elsewhere even if they were in the draft range for him, but I like what I saw.
But all it takes is one team and if Utah gave him the contract they gave him, you have to think there was another team willing to come close to that. Favors did have a really solid regular season stats wise. Per 30 minutes he was right around 11-11-2-1-1 on efficient shooting. I think a team like the Lakers could really use him. He gives them what Drummond can give defensively without the terrible offensive decision making and the entitlement of being a starter.
That's the list of free agent centers. There arent any studs available in UFA. Favors is right there with most of these players.
- Zeller really good, but cant never stay healthy
- Holmes is a rising energy big
- Someone will always be enamored with the talent of Drummond/Whiteside despite them being negatives
- Lopez is reliable but aging
- Boban is fun but cant play a lot
- Kanter is good at what he does and awful at what he doesnt
- Theis is a solid player, probably close to Favors level and some may prefer him for his shooting
Everyone else is right at replacement level or below though from what I can tell. Favors may be the most solid of all these centers. Maybe someone is willing to take the slight overpay for a reliable 20 mpg center who doesnt have huge holes, but idk.
List of teams who need center help (my estimation by glancing):
- Charlotte
- Toronto
- Dallas
- Portland (Only saying because Nurkic always seems to be hurt and it's the last year of his cheap deal)
- LA Lakers
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He has 2 knocks against him that will cause the jazz to pass. 1, he seems to be pretty athletic, and the jazz like something way more than athleticism. No one really knows what that thing is but it leads them to athletically limited role players with low low ceilings. And 2, he's not an upper class man. The jazz have shown that by drafting at least 2nd or 3rd year players, preferably seniors, they can get a guy that they will give minutes to because there is no way he played in college for 4 years without superior basketball skills. Or something.
Otherwise that guy looks great.
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If add Washington... gafford is good but Bryant is hurt... like not back until mid year. Lopez is likely gone. Also Sacramento.
Lakers don't have a solution at the 5 when Davis isn't playing there. Drummond became unplayable in the playoffs. Gasol is done, imo.
Herb Jones' anticipation and timing on defensive plays are pretty remarkable.
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Love his defensive ability and BBIQ
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Herb is gonna have a long career as a defensive specialist
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Give me Pons over Herb Jones
Herb Jones a choke artist lmao. I was so embarrassed for him in the UCLA game. Big time case of the yips
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I feel the Jazz should trade down, into the 2nd rd to acquire more picks. There's still a lot of good players to be had after the 1st rd. Maybe trade the 30th pick to teams like OKC, New Orleans or Detroit. They all have 2 2nd rounders from 31st to 42nd.
Yeah, repeat the 2018 draft and get 3 players Quin will never play in the 2nd round
stormkoopacv03
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All I can say is we keep trying. It's not like the Frauds are gonna be winning any 'Ship any time soon.
There should be a starting-caliber wing or guard prospect at #30. I can't believe the Jazz gave up a mid-40s 2RP in this draft for Matt Thomas though. The Jazz are so casual with their 2RPs. Hopefully, they can buy back into that range. Adding a Herb Jones, Filip Petrusev or David Johnson in the mid-2nd would be solid.
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If we stand pat, and he’s there, or if he’s still on the board around 27 and it doesn’t take much to move up, I want Primo. Love the kid.
*Super young. Is 18 y/o til December. Tons of room for growth.
*Has very good length with a 6’9.25” wingspan. Hayward’s was 6’8” fwiw.
*Hit the 3 at a good rate for a frosh. Some deep ones too. Smooth stroke though he doesn’t seem totally squared
*Nice handle. Looks very comfortable.
*Shows some ability to drive to the rim and finish well
*Athletic.
*Has played very well at the combine
*Love his body for its defensive potential
*My concerns would be tunnel vision—not many assists. And his rebounding numbers aren’t great. That said, I’m not sure what the coaches asked him to do.
*Super young. Is 18 y/o til December. Tons of room for growth.
*Has very good length with a 6’9.25” wingspan. Hayward’s was 6’8” fwiw.
*Hit the 3 at a good rate for a frosh. Some deep ones too. Smooth stroke though he doesn’t seem totally squared
*Nice handle. Looks very comfortable.
*Shows some ability to drive to the rim and finish well
*Athletic.
*Has played very well at the combine
*Love his body for its defensive potential
*My concerns would be tunnel vision—not many assists. And his rebounding numbers aren’t great. That said, I’m not sure what the coaches asked him to do.
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