The Thriller
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It’s still amazing though not surprising how the right is making Babbit out to be Trumpism’s “Horst Wessel.”
Protestors storm capital
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No, no. I know. That guy doesn't come out until much later and typically only on weekends and/or after losses. We're good. I know what you were trying to say.
It has been asked, and I don't see it. Actual BLM isn't that moronic. There were BLM demonstrations in the Washington DC this past year and none of them said "Hey, let's break into the capitol building! Nothing could possibly go wrong with that idea!" Even if they were all taking enough crazy pills to break in to the capitol with cameras absolutely everywhere, I don't see the capitol police thinking "Wow, this is a great opportunity to shoot unarmed Black people on camera! Nothing could possibly go wrong with that idea!"
I just don't see it.
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I had a Lego model of the death star. Clearly I'm a rebel.
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??? err, was it not clear that I was joking?
Yeah, it's a lot of fun having this brought up randomly all the time.
Clearly I'm a ****ing joke. I'm done with jazzfanz for a while. Obviously my main contribution is drunk posts of no value or meaning.
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Whoa. Back up a second. You aren’t a joke. I certainly don’t see you that way and I don’t see why anyone else would either. I believe it was your content that I first replied to here because it was thought provoking. I clearly misjudged how sensitive of a subject this is to you and I apologize for it. It was my bad.
If you need to take a break for a while, I get it, but don’t go thinking that you aren’t respected and won’t be missed. Even after being told to **** off, I still hold a high opinion of you and feel bad about being the straw that broke your back here. If you stay it will make this place better and if you go I’ll be happy to see you again when you head back.
JazzyFresh
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Bloody hell. The narrative you all pushed was that Trump's speech caused the insurrection but now we know this was premeditated. There's no way... Actually yeah there is .. that y'all are this dense.
Now Democrats act like they never said it.
JazzyFresh
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Says the side who made hero out of and built a statue out of a career felon and woman abuser. Democrats rioted, looted, destroyed innocent peoples lives, murdered and insurrected entire blocks over him. We could only imagine how much worse you all children would've acted if they did this with Chauvins name.
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Red
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“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump’s supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters
In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.
This exchange demonstrates that Trump could not care less that it was not a peaceful demonstration, and he did not act in a timely fashion to call off the insurrectionists.
Red
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And, when Trump finally did address the riot in progress, it was to make sure, first and foremost, that the rioters understood he understood why they were attacking the Capitol, that it was understandable, since the 2020 election had been won in a landslide by Trump, and that landslide had been stolen from Trump, and stolen from the insurrectionists. He justified the riot, and told them they were “loved”, and they were “special”. “Special”, because they had bought into the Big Lie created by Trump and his media allies and his keystone cops legal team. He might as well have spoken his heart just a little clearer and said “I lied to all of you, and you believed me and stormed Congress. Thank you for being faithful to me, we love you, you’re so special, nobody loves your country more than you do, so go in peace”. That was the spirit of what he told them on January 6th….
They attempted to overturn an election by force. And for this, Trump called them “loved” and “special”.
They attempted to overturn an election by force. And for this, Trump called them “loved” and “special”.
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JazzyFresh
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That's not what I asked... Where did he tell people to storm the Capitol like you claim.“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump’s supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters
In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.www.cnn.com
This exchange demonstrates that Trump could not care less that it was not a peaceful demonstration, and he did not act in a timely fashion to call off the insurrectionists.
"Trump was only urging his supporters to show up on the 6th of January for months."
Provide quotes... Where did he urge violence? Where did he urge them to do anything illegal? Why are you not answering the question?
JazzyFresh
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And can we PLEASE change the thread title? Nobody attacked a capital, this is embarrassing... If you all want to act smart at least understand basic grammar.
Capital can be a noun or an adjective. Capital can refer to uppercase letters, accumulated wealth, or the city that serves as the seat of a country’s or state’s government.
A capitol is a building in which the legislative body of government meets.
In the United States, the Capitol is a building in Washington in which the US Congress meets.
www.grammarly.com
Capital can be a noun or an adjective. Capital can refer to uppercase letters, accumulated wealth, or the city that serves as the seat of a country’s or state’s government.
A capitol is a building in which the legislative body of government meets.
In the United States, the Capitol is a building in Washington in which the US Congress meets.
Capital vs. Capitol—What’s the Difference?
Capital can be a noun or an adjective. Capital…
www.grammarly.com
Red
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Hahaha, I love it….
Did you notice that the Imperial College study that predicted up to 2 million American deaths, in its worse case models, was the study that Trump and his team decided they would use as their guideline on how to respond to the virus? And that they announced they would use its findings as their guide. When they made that announcement, were they fear mongering? By your interpretation, yes, Trump and company were fear mongering. Just a wild guess, but I’ll bet the White House adopting the Imperial College study, its dire warnings, and announcing they took the findings seriously, would have a greater impact on the American public than Red posting to a sports forum.
In hindsight, it’s all on the record. On this forum, only one person expressed being frightened by the Imperial College report. Only one person kept calling the posting of that report a form of fear mongering, even though the Trump team embraced that very report, and told the public. You were that person who kept expressing how frightened he was. If only you had someone, anyone, in your life, who could have held your hand and eased your fear when you most needed to be comforted.
We’re you that terrified of dying? Are you the cowardly lion? Do you not know that no man knows the time and place, and that nobody escapes alive?
Why were you even scared at all? If 2 million Americans had died, what were the odds that you would die from Covid? At any rate, don’t you know the only thing you have to fear is fear itself? The choice to be afraid is your’s alone, and you chose to be afraid, very afraid. And yet, here you are, alive and well.
So, Trump was fear mongering is the conclusion born of your logic. Well yes, actually, that is exactly what he is. From the day he descended the escalator in Trump Tower and told us all to be very afraid of Mexicans. That’s what demagogues do. Find what scares people, create scapegoats, and use that fear to best advantage. Again and again and again Trump has appealed to the fear in the hearts of his followers.
And you did the same on this forum. Reminded us again and again that the study would scare people. And by stating as much over and over and over, you were in fact scare mongering. All I did was publish a scientific study used by the White House. On the other hand, there you were, actively working to scare forum members, actively telling them over and over that the report was scary, lol. ! Isn’t it funny how that works? The people who complain the loudest about the behavior of others are the very people most likely to commit that very behavior. And so you did, and continue to do.
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Red
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The power of the Big Lie: Why do 30% of Americans cling to Trump's dark fantasy?
Nearly a third of Americans have surrendered to disinformation. The result could be a death spiral for democracy
www.salon.com
…the Age of Trump and its aftermath resemble a science fiction dystopia where people exist in their own personal realities, through a type of experience machine that connects them to others who believe the same things — however untrue or fantastical they may be. That hive-mind has taken shape around us in the form of TrumpWorld and the MAGAverse.
….belief in the Big Lie shows little sign of dissipating. The negative implications are many: Democracy is undermined when there is no shared understanding of basic facts and empirical reality; political violence becomes seen as acceptable when a Democratic administration is viewed by Trumpists and neofascists as illegitimate; any notion of the common good and shared public interest becomes impossible, which in turn makes the neofascist movement and its "solutions" more attractive to potential followers.
In total, the 30 percent of Americans who have been propagandized by the right-wing have abandoned the critical thinking skills and decision-making abilities required of responsible citizens in a healthy democracy.