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Game Thread Jan 21, 2022 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Pistons

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It’s wild that having Paschall an actual basketball player who does good basketball things on the court instead of Doke who is a large human actually worked… weird that having a big that just switches out on the perimeter and stays in front of guys is more effective than putting a large human in the paint while opposing team shoots three after three.

Paschall needs minutes… I literally think he might be the best player we have at staying in front of guys. He can make the corner three… he plays with actual energy… even if that energy leads to some over zealous fouls. #freeEP
 
It's baffling. Paschall's very best attribute as a player is scoring inside the paint. Being the roll man, or even just a guy who cuts/drives to the hoop with a spaced floor is the perfect scenario for him.

Paschall is shooting 34/48 inside the paint this year and has a high FTr. But I guess he's not good enough inside so we have to play Dok....against a spread offense like HOU nonetheless.
He also hits the corner three and might have the best lateral movement of any Jazz player… but yeah Quin wanted to experiment with a zone defense that definitely wasn’t a zone… and you can’t do that unless you do it all game… it’s illegal to change styles. Rather than having a big that can just switch out on the perimeter so the bigs don’t get open looks and hold the other defenders accountable for playing defense… it’s better to play a defense with a large human who doesn’t really know how to play basketball in a scheme that no one can really describe.
 
Everybody wants better defenders yet they complain about Forrest getting minutes who is one of the best defenders this year holding players to 39% when he guards them. Which is better than Smart has ever been on defense.

But Butler is the best in the NBA for anyone who's played more than 10 games at a ridiculous 19%.
 
It’s wild that having Paschall an actual basketball player who does good basketball things on the court instead of Doke who is a large human actually worked… weird that having a big that just switches out on the perimeter and stays in front of guys is more effective than putting a large human in the paint while opposing team shoots three after three.

Paschall needs minutes… I literally think he might be the best player we have at staying in front of guys. He can make the corner three… he plays with actual energy… even if that energy leads to some over zealous fouls. #freeEP
He definitely deserves regular minutes and role.
 
Nice win. Obviously cannot get too excited about beating a lottery team, but these days I’ll take anything I can get.

I know Mobley probably has ROY locked up, but if Cunningham does somehow win it I hope he thanks Royce in his acceptance speech.
 
I know we all get upset with Clarkson, but hate him or love him, he wants to be here and play here. No one else does, or will. Bring someone else in and they will want to bolt when their contract is up
 
Thank goodness Clarkson played well else we could have lost this bizzle.

And Forrest defended like a beast. He serves a purpose and has room to improve.

The win is nice but we need some trades.
 
I know we all get upset with Clarkson, but hate him or love him, he wants to be here and play here. No one else does, or will. Bring someone else in and they will want to bolt when their contract is up
That was his 1 good game out of 5. He will next play horrible defense and shoot us out of the next several games.
 
Everybody wants better defenders yet they complain about Forrest getting minutes who is one of the best defenders this year holding players to 39% when he guards them. Which is better than Smart has ever been on defense.

But Butler is the best in the NBA for anyone who's played more than 10 games at a ridiculous 19%.
The issue with Forrest is he’s not a shooter at all. He has no potential to be an acceptable shooter… and he’s a high turnover player. So it’s nice he’s a good defender but having a perimeter player with a mix of non shooter and high turnover absolutely nukes our offense. It’s made worse by the fact we have non shooter bigs. He’s also not a disruptive defender…not a lot of deflections, steals, etc. So my issue is where is his development going… because he’s nowhere near being good enough as a shooter and I don’t believe he will ever be a good shooter. It’s something people assume guys can just get better at but many guys at his level never become good enough. Last night guys actually closed out to him… other nights teams are more prepared and ignore him. It’s just another low ceiling project… like Tony Bradley. It’s fine to have Forrest on the roster and we didn’t waste a pick on him… but to prioritize him over Hughes and Butler is silly. Trent will never be a guy that can play extended minutes unless you get a shooting 5. He’s a guy that will be scouted harder in the playoffs and ignored. He will be unplayable in some situations.
 
The issue with Forrest is he’s not a shooter at all. He has no potential to be an acceptable shooter… and he’s a high turnover player. So it’s nice he’s a good defender but having a perimeter player with a mix of non shooter and high turnover absolutely nukes our offense. It’s made worse by the fact we have non shooter bigs. He’s also not a disruptive defender…not a lot of deflections, steals, etc. So my issue is where is his development going… because he’s nowhere near being good enough as a shooter and I don’t believe he will ever be a good shooter. It’s something people assume guys can just get better at but many guys at his level never become good enough. Last night guys actually closed out to him… other nights teams are more prepared and ignore him. It’s just another low ceiling project… like Tony Bradley. It’s fine to have Forrest on the roster and we didn’t waste a pick on him… but to prioritize him over Hughes and Butler is silly. Trent will never be a guy that can play extended minutes unless you get a shooting 5. He’s a guy that will be scouted harder in the playoffs and ignored. He will be unplayable in some situations.
If you would have watched Butler last night you would not be saying that. He made NWG look like Magic Johnson.
 
Quin is really strange. He tends to send guys packing or to the bench after they play really well. I know what my eyes saw, the guys efficiency rating but is Quin using some metrics us mere mortals couldn't possibly comprehend?
 
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