YoungJefe
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Woods numbers have always been volume stats on terrible teams and he's on an expiring contract
Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz
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YoungJefe
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Yeah they definitely know that they're taking whichever one of Chet, Jabari, or Banchero falls to them at #3. They said that moved Wood with that in mind and so that they could get Sengun more minutes next season.
I doubt it, they seem to be high on Sengun and will get a big in the top 3 this draft cycle.
YoungJefe
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I think the biggest thing is moving Don onto the ball and allowing him to play PG so he's not extremely undersized on defense. Adding a big wing that can score and create their own offense without being a total defensive liability would be my next step.
YoungJefe
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Bogey is on an expiring deal
FrenchJazzFa
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Just read the exchange between pro Don/ Pro Rudy. Allways sounds funny for me. I love Rudy ( he is french as i am) even if his tendency to open his mouth too much ( another french quality...) annoyed me sometimes. He is the best defender in the league but can't shoot which is a problem.
On the other side, you have Don, a fantastic offensive player whose defence is at my grand ma level.....
The question is, can we win with this 2? for me the answer is clearly yes, need to add the right guys and having a coach focus on our weak point.
Trade Rudy : might be the option but this is very risky. IF we suck ( which is a real possibility), then no doubt Don will request a trade later on and we loose all. If i was the FO, i will build around this 2 unless they are unable to work together but they say the opposite. Wait and see, we will know soon.
On the other side, you have Don, a fantastic offensive player whose defence is at my grand ma level.....
The question is, can we win with this 2? for me the answer is clearly yes, need to add the right guys and having a coach focus on our weak point.
Trade Rudy : might be the option but this is very risky. IF we suck ( which is a real possibility), then no doubt Don will request a trade later on and we loose all. If i was the FO, i will build around this 2 unless they are unable to work together but they say the opposite. Wait and see, we will know soon.
The Fresh Prince
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I'm getting hype for Collins. He's one offseason away from becoming elite. Like 23/10 elite.
Ainge, don't **** this up!
Ainge, don't **** this up!
LoPo
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So I'm being unreasonable without self awareness again...
Just answer these questions objectively...
- didn't Cy attack me for years?
- didn't people side with Cy because they themselves didn't want to be attacked?
- didn't Cy just get banned for inappropriate content?
- didn't Cy just get busted for using alternate accounts to try to continue his antics?
I know I'm stubborn as all get out, but I'm a fair guy. If you actually knew me, you knew this amount of hate on this forum against me is crazy as hell. But it's been a work in progress by the biggest weasel of them all for a while now.
I'm not here to make friends or create allies. I just want to talk about my favorite basketball team and discuss finding solutions to making us better. If friends happen along the way, I welcome that, but I can't control what upsets people these days. Upsetting people is definitely not my intent.
If we had both Gobert and Mitchell fully committed, the Finals.
He's gotten pretty frustrated with you, and has crossed the line..
You think people are quivering with fear over an internet loudmouth?
Repetition.
Did he? I don't recall that alt being definitively identified.
I wonder if you understand how insulting this is to the non-Cy posters who disagree with you.
So I agree with you on what the Jazz need… but I don’t think that’s unique to building around Don. Do that while keeping Don and Rudy and we are back to asking if we might be actual contenders again.
LoPo
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Our most pressing task is finding a good coach. We all, at least to a certain degree, love and appreciate Quin Snyder. However, from the 2021 playoffs through last season and postseason, Quin just flat out failed. Lack of adjustments, lack of flexibility, leadership, blown leads, on and on. A good new coach is key no matter if we keep the duo, trade one or trade both. Our team needed a new voice just like Quin said.
As for the roster, we need flexibility. Once Joe went down, we literally had 1 guy out of our primary 6 who was built to guard multiple positions (Royce). Conley, Don, Clarkson, Bojan and Rudy are primarily one position defenders. You simply cannot win series without defensive flexibility.
Don needs to be the only guy in our primary 8 man rotation who is only a "one position" defender. I'm not arguing Don vs Steph, but how Steve Kerr uses Steph is exactly how we should be using Don. Steph guards the worst offensive player on the other team. Sure Don will have to step up his defending on switches, but hopefully you get what I mean.
We need a roster that can feature a stretch 5 option. Doesn't have to be a philosophy we use more than 20 minutes a night, but it has to be an option. I think we intended that last year, but Quin never utilized Rudy Gay or Paschall enough during the regular season so we could use it when we needed it in the playoffs.
I like guys like Royce, House, and Juancho, but they need to be coming off the bench. They can't be relied upon to play 30mpg. I like JC, and he comes off the bench for a reason.
Flexible, switchable players. Youth. Athleticism. It's not a "build around Don" as much as it is a "build around current playoff requirements."
LoPo
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@One Brow
I just don't what to tell you. You either saw what Cy did for years or you didn't. His actions are his actions. There is absolutely no reason to attack somebody on these forums. Sure I like and dislike how others communicate, but I don't hate anybody on here. Not even Cy. I actually liked a ton of his posts. I like posts from people who go after me all the time.
I type like I'm sitting in a barbershop Coming to America style just shooting from the hip making my arguments. Some people just take this stuff too seriously.
If you want to find a way to get upset, you'll get upset. And if I'm your FoxNews or CNN and you're on the other side, you're going to dislike what I say regardless of what I say. For some of you, that's where we are.
I just don't what to tell you. You either saw what Cy did for years or you didn't. His actions are his actions. There is absolutely no reason to attack somebody on these forums. Sure I like and dislike how others communicate, but I don't hate anybody on here. Not even Cy. I actually liked a ton of his posts. I like posts from people who go after me all the time.
I type like I'm sitting in a barbershop Coming to America style just shooting from the hip making my arguments. Some people just take this stuff too seriously.
If you want to find a way to get upset, you'll get upset. And if I'm your FoxNews or CNN and you're on the other side, you're going to dislike what I say regardless of what I say. For some of you, that's where we are.
Gobert is our best defender at any position on the floor. Bogdanovic can switch a little, but that's a case of being equally mediocre everywhere. I agree on the rest.
If we get enough defense from out non-centers, they won't be hard to find.
Could you point out where I disagreed with you on Cy's actions? If not, consider your response as an example of the problem other people have with you.
What annoys people is how you seem to twist what they say, and just a paragraph ago when you implied that I disagreed with you on what Cy did.
That's a pretty high opinion of yourself. You're not the center of anyone's world on this board.
LoPo
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I twist words? Seriously?
I asked: "didn't Cy attack me for years?"
You said: "He's gotten pretty frustrated with you, and has crossed the line..". So you blamed me for Cy attacking me for years. That's what you said. Don't twist it.
I responded with " just don't what to tell you. You either saw what Cy did for years or you didn't. His actions are his actions."
And you twist again - when did I say I was the "center of attention"? Uh, wtf are you talking about? When did I ever imply that I think I'm the center of attention? I just said that I might trigger some people when I have no intention of triggering anybody.
Please don't say I twist things. Good Lord you are making this so complicated.
The Jazz Wonderbra
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I am here for the draft news, not the internet forum spats, drama, and counseling.
The best advice... mute the guy you don't like. Then it doesn't matter what he says.
Now, we are like 1 week from the draft. Things should start to get real or many of us will be dissapointed.
The best advice... mute the guy you don't like. Then it doesn't matter what he says.
Now, we are like 1 week from the draft. Things should start to get real or many of us will be dissapointed.
Handlogten's Heros
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The ignore button is a helluva tool.
LoPo
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I would imagine we are discussing one of three trades with Atlanta:
#1 pro Utah - Rudy for Collins, Hunter and a pick: pretty aggressive. Would we sacrifice the pick to have the luxury savings? What does Atlanta do with Capela?
#2 even deal - Rudy Gobert, Rudy Gay, and NAW for Collins, Capela, Hunter and a pick: seems pretty fair, but we do take on $4 million more in salaries.
#3 pro Atlanta - Rudy and Bojan for Collins, Capela, Hunter and a pick: what a steal for Atlanta here. Probably too rich for our blood.
I think it‘a closer to #3 than #1 and #2 may be what it ends up.