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Gobert to Minnesota

John Hollinger on the Deandre Ayton front: If we're talking 1-2 picks + Bogey for Ayton, hell yes I'm doing that trade!

What's the Jazz next move?​

While deals are being agreed to between teams and players, nothing can be signed in ink until the league's moratorium ends next week. As a result, the Jazz have five days to turn the Rudy Gobert trade into something even larger ... like, say, a sign-and-trade for Deandre Ayton. They could do that most effectively by including the contract of Bojan Bogdanovic, who fits a need for the Suns and could actually be salary-matched to Ayton in spite of his "base-year compensation issues." The Jazz can do this by starting Ayton's next deal at $29.11 million for 2022-23, which is high enough to permit an Ayton-Bogdanovic swap on the Phoenix side. Utah would then forward at least one of the draft picks from Minnesota to Phoenix in order to complete the triangle on the three-team trade; that, in turn, would allow the Jazz to use Gobert's outbound salary to help offset the gap between Ayton and Bogdanovic.

While we're here, let's complete the circle on that Ayton thought: The Suns could then trade for Kevin Durant with a package of Bogdanovic, Mikal Bridges and any player the Nets want named Cameron (along with a raft of future picks, no doubt), without being subjected to the complicating base-year rules or tax apron as they would in a deal that brought Ayton to Brooklyn. That circle completes, of course, with the delicious possibility of the first-round pick the Nets sent out for Royce O'Neal ending up right back in Brooklyn via Phoenix; in fact, O'Neale's deal would likely end up as part of the trade, too, and enable the Jazz to get a $19.5 million trade exception for Bogdanovic (with the help of an earlier exception for Joe Ingles that can swallow Jarred Vanderbilt's small deal). Dare to dream, people.
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LoPo said:
Heck no. Beverley and Vanderbilt start to change our defensive identity almost immediately.

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Which will make zero difference without shooters and no good rim protector. These are nice pick ups IF we were adding them as supporting cast but they dont move the dime without Rudy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We got a mystery box and a bunch of functional players. Now we did get a really valuable mystery box and its the same exact type of mystery box Ainge has used to build a contender.

In addition to that we opened up cap space next year to pivot if need be. I love Rudy but that contract had some potential to be really bad later on... its just the circle of life... okay to be sad... but also know Rudy didn't die in vain.
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True on the mystery part. What Ainge got the first time were high level lottery picks. This is a bunch of mediocrity at best. This makes no sense in surrounding Diva Donny and no sense in a blow up. Obviously there is more to come so I will sit tight but so far this is bad.
 
PresidioTrojan said:
Would much prefer to dump Donovan than give up some of these trade assets for DeAndre Ayton. IMO, building around Donovan will never be a championship-caliber team.
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I hope you are right but sounds like we are committed to building around an undersized guard. People are all excited because some folks love change and love movement but this makes no sense so far.
 
Bodhi said:
LOL at the idea that Don and Ayton would do anymore than Don and Rudy.........or Ayton, Booker, Paul.

I pray we arent trying to get Ayton at all.
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I bet Ayton is a better player than Rudy by next year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Really... pretty sure I heard em saying 1 pick from Atlanta and then Chicago was a sure thing... etc. You nailed it Monty... now go take out the trash before your Father-in-law sees it full and kicks your *** out the basement.
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The co-host of his show (I think it may be his son but I'm not sure) has been saying that the Jazz are going to have to pay to get off Gobert's contract and that other teams in the league don't value him.
 
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