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sip said:
I don't see how Ayton is a flawed center. He is more than capable of doing everything. He is a solid defender and rebounder. Offensively he finishes strong around the rim and is capable of stepping out and hitting an outside shot. He is just a solid all around center.
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I said flawed roster, not center. Reread my post.
 
Jazz Traveler said:
I want nothing to do with Ayton or Simmons. Culture matters. Trade Mitchell for rookies/young prospects/ and all the draft picks. No more dysfunction in the locker room. Start over and do it right.
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What’s the problem with Ayton? He seems to be a good team mate he’s willing to play a role and he’s solid all around. He can defend, rim protect, hit mid range, he’s got finesse, he can hit ft’s.
I’d try for him if I were the Jazz. Do the sign and trade lock a guy like that up for 5 years, force feed him into the all star game and start over with an awesome prospect and tons of picks and flexibility. I’d like those prospects.


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sip said:
I don't see how Ayton is a flawed center. He is more than capable of doing everything. He is a solid defender and rebounder. Offensively he finishes strong around the rim and is capable of stepping out and hitting an outside shot. He is just a solid all around center. I think in the right situation where he is more of a focus offensively he can be 24pt, 12rb, 2 blk a game center. To me he is the ideal pairing with Mitchell and I would love to give it a shot. If it doesn't work out then we blow it up during the season or next offseason.
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And what would be the best case scenario with this pairing?

Better than when we was paired with Booker who is better than DM? Better than when we was paired with Booker, CP, Bridges etc etc?

I don’t follow the logic where Ayton/DM gets a better result than the significantly better team he is coming from.
 
Anyone else checking their phone non stop waiting for the next domino to fall? I love this time of year when you have a basketball people that you can trust.
 
I wonder if we could help facilitate a Durant to Miami deal by taking Bam back and giving some players and picks.
 
Bodhi said:
And what would be the best case scenario with this pairing?

Better than when we was paired with Booker who is better than DM? Better than when we was paired with Booker, CP, Bridges etc etc?

I don’t follow the logic where Ayton/DM gets a better result than the significantly better team he is coming from.
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This. Or where an Ayton/DM pairing is better than with Gobert. Ayton is nowhere near the defensive presence Gobert is and whoever fills in that gap needs to be ready to cover for all the matador defense they are going to see from Mitchell.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Other than MJ was far far better of a defender already. He has several all-defensive teams in his career. Mitchell has made it clear he won't play defense, and doesn't care, and had no problem hanging it all on Gobert. If they build around Donovan they better focus on people who can hide his complete lack of effort for half the game. Because they gave up the all-world defender that covered up so many of his weaknesses that he willed us to several series wins despite much of the team doing nothing on the defensive end except funneling everyone to the middle and letting their guy just waltz on by. If they don't fill the massive void left by Gobert we'll be lucky to win 30 games.
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Incredible how this fan base can so incredibly overrate one player and completely disrespect the other.

Rudy was great. Don was great. The supporting cast was disappointing and the coaching was suspect.

Don can definitely be the main part of our successful future.

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NUMBERICA said:
Count me out on Ayton. I think he’s a disaster waiting to happen for his new team.
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As opposed to what? You guys love picks so much you’d rather draft 25th than have Ayton, who you could very easily trade for more picks down the line anyways lol.
 
I would be fine with Ayton. I see him as an asset in two ways. We can trade him at the trade deadline. Also, he’s not going to impact winning much this coming year, so we will get better through the draft this and next year. If he’s say your fourth option he’s good. Who knows what this team will look like in 4-5 years. Also he won’t come overly expensive I think.
 
Bodhi said:
And what would be the best case scenario with this pairing?

Better than when we was paired with Booker who is better than DM? Better than when we was paired with Booker, CP, Bridges etc etc?

I don’t follow the logic where Ayton/DM gets a better result than the significantly better team he is coming from.
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Donovan is better than Booker. It's not really close.

Bridges, CP, Cam Johnson, Crowder and others make life much easier than what we had.

Teammates matter.

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If Ayton could draw fouls I'd be way higher on him. Could easily be a 20-12 big who doesnt suck on D and those guys have trade value.
 
sip said:
Anyone else checking their phone non stop waiting for the next domino to fall? I love this time of year when you have a basketball people that you can trust.
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That’s me in a nutshell
LoPo said:
Don can definitely be the main part of our successful future.
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He can, but it’s going to take exactly the right lineup, and will he play more within the flow of the offense. As I said earlier this morning, he can be that guy, but he’s not going to be easy to build around.
 
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