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By contrast, Trump could release the full contents of the warrant. He doesn't seem to want to. If it were just "overdue library books", why won't Trump release the warrant?
What makes you so sure Trump has a copy of the warrant? AFAIK, no one on Team Trump has confirmed they have a copy of the warrant and no one from the government has confirmed that anyone associated with Trump was given a copy of the warrant. Like ever other aspect of this raid, it is all speculation and unnamed sources who may or may not be real.


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Well in trumper land he was the best president of all time so guaranteed they will take his side over law enforcement and believe that the fbi planted evidence. Then some of the trumpers will probably storm some government buikding and get arrested and then claim to be patriotic victims again….. after donating to the donald trump defund the democrats with badges (fbi) fund that donald uses for himself.


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You mean like the dems did in Arizona after r v w? It’s the cool thing to do now days.
 
It is that they don't believe themselves to be answerable to anyone including congressional oversight committees who are legally entitled so that information.
Please name three other times the FBI reported to Congressional oversight committees on the contents of on-going investigations. For example, the raid on Rep. Henry Cueller, D-Laredo was earlier this year. I don't recall you pitching a hissy-fit over the FBI silence then.

 
What makes you so sure Trump has a copy of the warrant?
Someone would have delivered something to the Secret Service agents before the search. Maybe you think the Secret Service didn't give it to Trump?

On further searching, I found this:

Trump's attorneys have publicly stated that they were able to review the search warrant and that it indicated the seizures were based on potential offenses involving classified documents and the Presidential Records Act. Christina Bobb, one of Trump's attorneys who was at Mar-A-Lago when the search took place, said that she was shown a copy of the search warrant but did not receive a copy.

Trump's attorneys know what was in the warrant. Trump could have it revealed at any time.
 
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Someone would have delivered something to the Secret Service agents before the search. Maybe you think the Secret Service didn't give it to Trump?
Law enforcement has to show a warrant to enter but they do not have to give a physical copy of it to anyone. It is very possible that only the FBI and the courts have a copy of the warrant. Absolutely no other party outside of the FBI and the court are confirmed to have received a copy of the warrant.

Judicial Watch has filed for the warrant to be released and the judge has given a deadline of 8/15 to oppose it. We'll see who opposes the public release of the warrant.
 
Law enforcement has to show a warrant to enter but they do not have to give a physical copy of it to anyone. It is very possible that only the FBI and the courts have a copy of the warrant. Absolutely no other party outside of the FBI and the court are confirmed to have received a copy of the warrant.

Judicial Watch has filed for the warrant to be released and the judge has given a deadline of 8/15 to oppose it. We'll see who opposes the public release of the warrant.
I edited that comment while you were typing a response. Trump's lawyer read the warrant. Trump knows what was in it. If he doesn't release that information, it will be because Trump opposes releasing the contents of the warrant.
 
People tend to get unhinged when they are afraid.
These folks are certainly not unhinged. But the fear is real.


President Joe Biden privately met with a group of historians at the White House last week who warned him about ongoing threats to democracy, The Washington Postreported Wednesday.

Sources familiar with the August 4 meeting, which was said to have lasted nearly two hours, told the outlet the experts described the current moment as among the most dangerous to democracy in modern history.

The people in the meeting were said to have included the Princeton University history professor Sean Wilentz, the University of Virginia historian Allida Black, the journalist Anne Applebaum, and the presidential historian Michael Beschloss. Speechwriters for Biden, including Vinay Reddy and Jon Meacham, and the White House senior advisor Anita Dunn were also said to have attended.

The small group almost exclusively discussed totalitarianism around the world and threats to American democracy, according to the Post.

The outlet reported the scholars compared the current state of affairs to the era that preceded the American Civil War, as well as the period before World War II when fascist movements emerged, specifically noting Abraham Lincoln's 1860 election and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 1940 election.
 
What is your source on that? As far as I know the lawyer is claiming the closest she was allowed to get to the warrant was 10 feet and no closer.
Trump's attorneys have publicly stated that they were able to review the search warrant and that it indicated the seizures were based on potential offenses involving classified documents and the Presidential Records Act. Christina Bobb, one of Trump's attorneys who was at Mar-A-Lago when the search took place, said that she was shown a copy of the search warrant but did not receive a copy.
 
If Trump's attorneys don't have a copy of the warrant then they can't release it. About all they can do is tell everyone "that it indicated the seizures were based on potential offenses involving classified documents and the Presidential Records Act".

We will have to see what Merrick Garland says in his statement scheduled for later today.
 
I’m sure the release of the warrant information will dispel all of the right’s conspiracy and suspicion of the raid. I bet they’re quickly backtrack and admit that the FBI’s raid was definitely warranted and will cheer for Justice to be served on Donald Trump. In fact, I bet Trumpers on this website will apologize and admit they’ve been wrong. I know folks like Al and Buck have a long history of admitting that other posters have been correct and that their arguments have been wrong.

After all, these people are deeply concerned about law and Justice and not defending their tribe and dear leader.
 
I’m sure the release of the warrant information will dispel all of the right’s conspiracy and suspicion of the raid. I bet they’re quickly backtrack and admit that the FBI’s raid was definitely warranted and will cheer for Justice to be served on Donald Trump. In fact, I bet Trumpers on this website will apologize and admit they’ve been wrong. I know folks like Al and Buck have a long history of admitting that other posters have been correct and that their arguments have been wrong.

After all, these people are deeply concerned about law and Justice and not defending their tribe and dear leader.
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I don’t know what’s more pathetic? That this is happening or that it’s all so easily predictable.

All this loyalty… for one pathetic husk of a man who was merely shameless enough to voice his racism and misogyny in the 21st century? Wow. How empowering. Truly inspirational, republicans, truly.
 
Watch the Trumpers on here try and deflect and distract. Hillary! Hunter! Uhhhh well this crime wasn’t that bad. Trump was too stupid to know it was a crime. He can’t be criming when he doesn’t think he’s criming. He’s too stupid. Actually, what trump was doing wasn't criminal but patriotic. Just like the phone call to Ukraine and Jan 6. Zelensky and the west are actually the bad people and Putin is good. Jan 6 was actually a patriotic and great day. Ashli Babbit was the victim and the Capitol police were bad. Holding Jan 6 Hearings is bad! How dare we hold Trump accountable?! If only we leave him alone then he and the right won't wreck American democracy! The mean law enforcement is out to get him! He's innocent!

And then they’ll go silent for a few days and then come back on here during the next Trump scandal to defend their god. It happens every other week.
 
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I’m sure the release of the warrant information will dispel all of the right’s conspiracy and suspicion of the raid. I bet they’re quickly backtrack and admit that the FBI’s raid was definitely warranted and will cheer for Justice to be served on Donald Trump. In fact, I bet Trumpers on this website will apologize and admit they’ve been wrong. I know folks like Al and Buck have a long history of admitting that other posters have been correct and that their arguments have been wrong.
I have long taken the position that I don't necessarily have a problem with criminal prosecution of Trump so long as it is in a criminal court but I also think it is a colossally stupid thing to do because the damage it would do to the fabric of the nation far outweighs any potential benefit. I have even said in this thread the raid on Mar-o-Lago was probably legal. I simply believe that it would have been better for the nation if the government had pursued this with more lawyers behind the scenes and fewer machine guns in front of cameras.

If I'm wrong and the government can keep doing what it does then I'm not happy but oh well. If I'm not wrong, how may people are going to have to die before you decide that maybe lowering the temperature on the rhetoric and open aggression is the wiser course of action? Is there a number? Does it not matter so long as you can justify the deaths in your head and it hurts more of the people you don't like than the ones you do? What is it going to take for you to think that maybe we should take a beat to think about the consequences before proceeding with a thing we can do because it is legal to do?
 
If I'm wrong and the government can keep doing what it does then I'm not happy but oh well. If I'm not wrong, how may people are going to have to die before you decide that maybe lowering the temperature on the rhetoric and open aggression is the wiser course of action?
You mean, the heated rhetoric coming from the left on Donald Trump's FBI search? I hadn't seen that.

Standing outside, brandishing weapons is standard FBI procedure for a raid, at least for prominent people. Check out the pictures from the raid on Cuellar's house.
 
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