Time to trade Fool's Gold

[Revolution 9]

Very dissapointed in Big Al last night. He is one of the vets on the team, and was not prepared. This is unexceptable if he wants to be a starter on this team.
I'm sure he'll right the ship at some point like last year, but last night will not be forgotten.

Same for Raja.

 

[One Brow]

I just don't see any of Favors, Kantor, or Millsap defending other teams starting centers at this time. The first two, due primarily to youth, are not strong enough, the third not tall enough. We've traded away Okur. Who is supposed to guard Tyson Chandler, Marc Gasol, Andurew Bogut, Andrew Bynum, etc.?

If we trade Jefferson, we need to get a starting center back in return.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Jefferson and Favors don't compliment each other at all.

Favors and Millsap do.

To use the same spin that 1320 has been using regarding Millsap's benching... Jefferson isn't an elite player. So while he might do ok as a starter, he'll do fantastic in a 6th man role.

Bringing Jefferson off the bench is really, the best option we have regarding our BIG 3.

 

[One Brow]

The difference between bringing Jefferson and Millsap off the bench is that Millsap is undersized as a starter (and insufficiently athletic to counter that), but not as a bench player.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Kanter can defend centers. He's probably our best post defender actually. Last night Gasol put some good moves on him, but if we cared, we would have sent a double team like we did earlier in the game.

 

[One Brow]

Kanter will be able to defend centers in the future. I don't think he's ready now.

 

[freakazoid]

Isn't it entirely possible that Al's trade value is/will be tied to the team's success?.

I think team success is a factor, but we only have so much control over that, and I don't think sending Al to the bench is the difference between winning 20 games and winning 35. Al was a beast in the second half of the season last year, and I think our best bet to maximize his value would be for that trend to continue up to the trade deadline. 14 million for a guy we don't even start doesn't scream trade value. If Utah was a bordeline playoff team, then I think a move like this would be worth a shot. As it is, I don't think that's the case.

If that's the case, and both the Jazz and Al play better with Al anchoring the second unit, wouldn't the Jazz be better served playing Al off the bench?

I think it's possible the Jazz might win a few more games, but I don't think it would make the team good enough to improve Al's value. Like I said, this move would make sense to me under certain conditions, but with the position I think they're in, I think it would do more harm than good going forward.

edit: Think Antawn Jamison landing the fifth overall pick (Devin Harris), Jerry Stackhouse and an aging Christian Laettner in a trade after his successful 03/04 season coming off the bench for Dallas.

I'm not going to pretend I remember the exact conditions of each one of those players leading up to those trades. What I do know is that Al was beasting to end the season last year, and I believe our best bet in cashing in, would be to hope for that to continue.

Damn, I seem to be repeating myself a lot. Sorry, but I'm not editing, since I'm too lazy.

 

[freakazoid]

ps. gee man, we try to discuss how the team should play better and not how to be in a good position a lottery draft

Sorry if you can't see past one year. Playing better is great for teams that will make the playoffs. For teams not making the playoffs, moves have to made with the future in mind. If the Jazz make the playoffs, I will gladly eat my crow. Until then, I'm going to discuss what I think our FO should be doing moving forward.

 

[bjunior]

Sorry if you can't see past one year. Playing better is great for teams that will make the playoffs. For teams not making the playoffs, moves have to made with the future in mind. If the Jazz make the playoffs, I will gladly eat my crow. Until then, I'm going to discuss what I think our FO should be doing moving forward.

I still believe we can make the playoffs. Until I believe that I'll discuss the moves that can make this team better right now, this season.

 

[green]

How about Houston as a trade partner? They have been desperately looking for a big man the last couple of weeks.

 

[orangello]

How about Houston as a trade partner? They have been desperately looking for a big man the last couple of weeks.

I really like that idea. I know that they have the Knicks unprotected first round pick plus they have their own. That could be a great move.

 

[freakazoid]

I still believe we can make the playoffs. Until I believe that I'll discuss the moves that can make this team better right now, this season.

I didn't say anything about what we should be discussing, you did. And there's nothing wrong in hoping for the playoffs, but keep in mind that our FO has to be more realistic about the big picture. There are plenty of teams that shoot themselves in the foot by making shortsighted moves. The result can be many years of missing the playoffs, instead of one or two.

We will start BigAl (big salary) and Bell (veteran) until the chances of playoffs will be gone and everybody just don' care..

As for me, I will still care about the Jazz, playoffs or not. I will happily follow them in the rebuilding process, while the fair weather fans are off doing other things.