Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Hearsky]

Curious what the Wolves would be offering for Conley. It would probably take DLo to match salaries, but we won’t take that and we already have all the picks they can trade.

I'd take DLo and Wendell Moore for Mike and Rudy and try and flip DLo, or let him expire.

 

[sip]

Curious what the Wolves would be offering for Conley. It would probably take DLo to match salaries, but we won’t take that and we already have all the picks they can trade.

A deal only makes sense if the jazz value the extra cap space or there is a 3rd team that may value DLo and his expiring contract and are willing to give up draft capital for us to take on a longer contract.

 

[sip]

Says the duche getting all his info from Jake Fischer aka the bullsht whisperer who gets called out for it all the time.

You are the only one.

 

[Eddie Zero]

You are the only one.

on here maybe lol
Collins has long been considered a diva , and if you don't care about that, at least ackowledge him getting 25 per is insane for someone who wont get any more usage here than he is there.

 

[Eddie Zero]

I'd take DLo and Wendell Moore for Mike and Rudy and try and flip DLo, or let him expire.

They can get more for Dlo than that

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd take DLo and Wendell Moore for Mike and Rudy and try and flip DLo, or let him expire.

Conley would help them so much... I need something important I think. Wonder if a three teamer with Dlo going to the Lakers would help Lebron trade them picks.

 

[Udidthizz]

I'd take DLo and Wendell Moore for Mike and Rudy and try and flip DLo, or let him expire.

Forgot DLo expires this year (his contract at least) so it would help clear some salary. But he’s a huge problem for the Wolves. They have to trade or re-sign him and re-signing him doesn’t help them. So if we’d take DLo in trade and solve their problem, there would have to be compensation. Giving them Mike would also help them. I’d rather keep them in DLo misery long term, since we own their future.
I mean, morally we owe them after Danny robbed them blind, but still.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Conley would help them so much... I need something important I think. Wonder if a three teamer with Dlo going to the Lakers would help Lebron trade them picks.

Only extra thing we could get out of them really is a swap in 2028 and/or making their 2029 1st unprotected instead of top-5 protected.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not sure what the feeling is on him now, but he has complained about his role previously (or it's been reported that he's unhappy) and especially unhappy with Trae Young. He's been in trade rumors for years because of this and I think he's garnered some kind of diva image for wanting more touches.

Again, show me the reports

 

[HermanG]

Again, show me the reports

There are none. All media posts.. Hawks boards... all claim he is a great guy.

Even if they could find a random dude tweet from 2018 that says so.. we can slap them back with 5 legit news articles that contradict it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Only extra thing we could get out of them really is a swap in 2028 and/or making their 2029 1st unprotected instead of top-5 protected.

Well then I guess it rests on how much stuff we could get for routing DLo to another team mixed with some of our other pieces.

I'm just not gonna help em. They may end up trading for Lowry but that has potential to backfire as Kyle is perpetually hurt or nicked up and is not as nice a guy as Mike. I could see Kyle actively being an *** to get up out of there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we do the Collins trade... my preference is Beasley/KO for John Collins/Justin Holiday (will re-route him) plus we get the right to swap picks with the Brooklyn pick top 4 protected. If we elect to not swap picks - say the Atlanta pick is 21 and the Nets pick is 25 and we don't see the difference as meaningful- then we can elect to take the Kings pick. Same applies if the pick somehow fell inside of the top 4 and was protected... in that case we get the Kings pick they own. The Kings pick has protections so its somewhat of a meh pick.

If it is Vando instead of KO price goes up.

 

[David Stern]

The Mike for D-Lo trade would be incredibly interesting. Probably makes them better this year, but Mike is basically toast and they’d have no real way to upgrade him moving forward. Could be a great way to help our future picks

 

[KqWIN]

Again, show me the reports

john collins unhappy - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[David Stern]

Well then I guess it rests on how much stuff we could get for routing DLo to another team mixed with some of our other pieces.

I'm just not gonna help em. They may end up trading for Lowry but that has potential to backfire as Kyle is perpetually hurt or nicked up and is not as nice a guy as Mike. I could see Kyle actively being an *** to get up out of there.

I missed that they were interested in Lowry, I’d say let them do that

 

[HermanG]

john collins unhappy - Google Search

www.google.com

Dude everyone knows those headlines and they are not reports about his personality.. they are headlines based on stuff he said behind closed doors in team meetings where you are supposed to be able to say stuff like that.

And he isnt even wrong. Trae was top 3 in dribbles per touch, average touch duration and average time of possession that year. No one bounces and holds the ball more than him.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

What about this trade?

Lakers in: swag bros
DLo
Clarkson

Wolves in: vet help
Conley
Gay

Jazz in: draft comp/ expirings
Westbrook
‘27 1st


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[HermanG]

john collins unhappy - Google Search

www.google.com

Fyi, this is a report.

John Collins is the ‘heart and soul’ of the Hawks, channeling his emotions much differently than before

A military kid who moved constantly, Collins was often angry growing up but now is enjoying adulthood — and his time with the Atlanta Hawks.

theathletic.com

Today, Collins is known throughout the Hawks organization as this vibrant, happy person to be around. He’s the player the franchise goes to when it needs a representative at a community event or someone to shake the hand of some important figure.

Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk called Collins “the heart and soul of the team” on “The Jim Rome Show” last week. While Trae Young is viewed as the team’s best player, Collins is the emotional leader inside the locker room for Atlanta. He’s the one in the middle of the huddle prior to the game, breaking it down, the guy who’s unafraid to speak his mind, both good and bad.

 

[Eddie Zero]

There are none. All media posts.. Hawks boards... all claim he is a great guy.

Even if they could find a random dude tweet from 2018 that says so.. we can slap them back with 5 legit news articles that contradict it.

Show 5 legit news articles written by anyone outside of ATL that contradict that he is underperforming, not happy with Trae Young, is being iced out by his coach, is not getting the touches in favor of better athletes that also cannot stretch the floor etc. Don't include the homer articles,written on fan based sites either, who are perpetually trying to boost the Hawks players values.
Even you find some, I still don't buy this guy who was so good early in his career, and isn't at all the same player, has not either fallen off significantly as a player without his drugs, or is in fact getting the bad teammate treatment because well you guessed it.

 

[KqWIN]

Dude everyone knows those headlines and they are not reports about his personality.. they are headlines based on stuff he said behind closed doors in team meetings where you are supposed to be able to say stuff like that.

And he isnt even wrong. Trae was top 3 in dribbles per touch, average touch duration and average time of possession that year. No one bounces and holds the ball more than him.

I don't disagree with you. I don't think JC was the problem and he's unfairly gotten a bad rep for being "unhappy". But it's been a well known discussion point for years.