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Pre Game



Poeltl not starting tonight as he hasn't practiced yet. Fine, I guess. I would have thrown him out there.

Game day! Real long win streak incoming.



1st Half



Lol every time i see talen Horton... the Lakers thought he wasn't worth Lowry



Poeltl creates so much space with his screens, but nobody knows what to do when they have clean looks at the rim.



Why isn’t Nurse matching up Jakob with Kessler? Wasn’t that the whole point?



I am really surprise the significant decline of VanVleet’s POA defense this season.

Sexton and THT taking turns attacking him

He is like Derozan, a total pylon



Will Hardy Utah Jazz coach maximizing the strengths of what he have in front of him

Young coach with lots of promise





2nd Half



Put Fred VanBlowBy on the bench



Gotta blow them out



Can't wait till Fred VanBum robs the organization for 130 million



Playing against 3 huge 7 footers doesn’t help tbh



Just cuz poeltl here doesnt mean everyone else can stop rebounding. Getting killed inthe paint sheesh



TRASH..Cannot protect the lead.. Cannot shoot FT JPoeltl worst TRADE.. SBarnes not consistent in scoring



Barely beating a depleted trash jazz squad lmao these raptors are still str8 up garbage



Who is responsible for defense rebound and block Kessler?!!! They have many 2nd chance point. DEFENSE!!!!!!



Out of all the ways you just couldn’t lose coming out of the trade deadline, this was probably number 1 lol



IT WAS A 12 POINT LEAD WHEN I LEFT MY HOUSE????



Finding new ways to disappoint



i apologies but i don’t see why we gave up what we gave up for poetlt.



Kessler is really good.



Effing Danny Ainge did it again.
The mormons have assembled a trunkload of draft picks.
Lots of cap space.
And a couple of young players to get a good start on the roster re-construction.



Everyone on Utah can throw him perfect lobs for dunks. But for some reason, your PG doesn’t know how to throw lobs.



Walker Kessler man handling Precious and Jazz guards attacking VanVleet trash POA defense with no shot blocker out there

while Poeltl the RENTAL is shining that pine



VanVleet. minus 16



Rookie coach schooled us twice in a week with a squad that’s supposed to be tanking and just lost 3 good rotation players, while we picked up 1. What a nightmare.



Post Game



Darn....I was hoping for a different result but the same issue remains in that their defense isn't that solid but more so they can't score. Not a very balanced roster imo ..even though I like a lot of these guys since they developed them into good players...can't really say who needs to go but unfortunately something needs to change since it doesn't appear to be working even with the addition of JP (might get a bit better with JP on the floor but imo the the issue will remain that they don't have reliable scorers). Best wishes Raptors



Disappointing result! For first three quarters the Raptors were playing a smart game. But the fourth quarter a total collapse of defense ( especially in the paint) and communications. You noticed at the end of game Coach Nurse and Fred were extremely upset



actually, when refs decided to call 5 ridiculous fouls against the Raps at 2 minutes 43 seconds into the 4th, putting the Jazz into bonus with 9:17 to go... and continued with uneven calls, they basically paved the way for the Jazz.



Walker Kessler is really good. Forget the other 3 first round picks. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for Gobert at this point. TWolves with another L. it's our L. He should be on our team, not Thad. Not Koloko.



This team continues to be a huge disappointment. Should've traded from the core and accumulated draft capital and young players. Instead they continue to struggle and they traded away their 2024 first round pick for a centre who doesn't really push the needle. Lovely.



Another brutal loss by the Raptors. Like Nick Nurse but not sure what he was doing in this one. You can’t let a 14 point lead slip like that.



Oh look, it's Gary who bricked all 4 of his shots in the last 3:52 of the game (we were up 112-104 at that point)



Totally unforgivable loss.



Walker Kessler is who we need. But nooooo we traded a 1st for Thad then compounded that error by trading another 1st for poeltl a guy who did **** tonight but foul manz. Masai losing his magic touch.



Send Freddy to Shanghai



Should have sold at the deadline



How did that happen?!!!



Led most of the game and could not finish even without Jordan Clarkson on the Jazz. Should have made major trades before the deadline



There's no way this happened



Why are we employing Fred



40 points given up in the 4th is utterly embarrassing



Gave that game away like they didn’t even want to win it



Fred really stopped being good once he realized he's safe for ufa



Why is Jakob on the bench when sexton is owning the paint??? Why????



Trade Fred or let him walk in off season. He is no longer suitable for this Raptors team…



Thanks for ruining my night, a 20-4 run smh



Barf-a-rama



I don’t wanna see fred in a raptors jersey come June.



Dead *** no way y’all lost that game up 12 w 5 minutes left on your own floor



Worst loss of the season?



What a fix , shooting free throws with 9:45 left in the 4th quarter ? Every time Utah got close to a defender they were calling it and whistle was going one way again just like every other night. Trash league



You just got owned by the Cavs backups LMAOOOO



does MLSE have Masai’s Sex tape and forced him to buy? i still refuse to believe he fumbled the deadline so hard



When is the trade deadline



Directionless franchise



We really bought at the deadline for this?



I’m so done bro why is Fred still on this team why just why… WHY?????



I want Fred arrested by sun rise and I want nick nurse masai and bobby deported



van fleet makes 23 million dollars a year? I'm asking because I just watching him play and if I didn't know from looking it up I would have thought he was on a 10 day contract and tonight was his last night in the league! did he really just Zero a 4th q on a 24 million salary?



Holy **** we ****ing suck! Blew a 13 point lead with 4 min left



Kessler an example of a guy who Masai planned to stop by trading picks to get a RENTAL sat the entire fourth quarter



poeltl with 5 fouls ...I thought he was supposed to be good defensively?



Poeltl should've played more in the 4th. The Jazz bigs got layups after layups in the 4th. As for his 5 fouls, a lot of it was not his fault.



it was curious we made a trade to give us some rim protection and then proceeded to sit the guy while they ****ing murdered us in the paint down the stretch.



At 5:11 mark in the 4th quarter raptors had a 101-98 pt lead vs the jazz. By the end of the game the jazz somehow got 122 pts….. while the raptors only scored 116pts. My mind is losing brain cells how did we choke this game. We had this game until that debacle of a 4th quarter.



I hate this team and I hate FVV



Sooo are we allowed to complain about the Thad trade again anytime we cooked by Kessler on the boards?



they play a ******* brand of basketball.

It's not lack of talent.

it's just a **** system.



The Freddy airball was truly the icing on the cake



What happened during that 14-1 run I went to use washroom



Easily the worst loss of the year. Give up a first rounder to get Poeltl, then proceed to choke a 12 point 4th quarter lead to the tanking Jazz at home. Masai ****ed up. This team is broken.



This team could really use a guard like sexton. Have always loved his game, killed the raptors with his slashing down the stretch.



We got killed by 3-pointers the last time so this time we decided to get destroyed in the paint. They keep finding creative ways to lose.



We SUCK and we gave up our 1st round PICK and still can't protect the paint. What a joke.



Hmm Sexton completey cooked Fred. If Jakob wasn't in foul trouble from the brain damaged refs I think that crazy run would not have happened at the end



Pathetic loss, utah almost looked embarrassed to humiliate us like that



the Raptors gave up 76 points in the paint.

That is..... a lot.



Masai and Ainge both holding Ls tonight. One man can't win despite buying, the other can't lose despite selling



"this was the worst loss of the season"

"ah ah ah. this was the worst loss of the season.... so far"





The Jazz had whatever they wanted at the rim and were just walking in for free layups, was it like 78 paint points or some **** like that LOL. 6'9 vision when the Jazz are running 3 7 footer lineups and they have whatever they want at the rim.



I just don’t understand why they couldn’t just trade one ****ing guy to change the scenery…wish is was Fred. Can’t stand that little ****.



This loss is unacceptable; they legit sold their team yesterday… people want to say we’re a playoff team? We should’ve smoked them out the water, even if Jakob wasn’t playing



Looks like tank is back on the menu boys!



Damnnn man I legit fell asleep at the beginning of the 4th and woke up to an L wtf happened



Tank rest of this year trade pascal and get back a 2023 first and 2024 first and some young players. Sign and trade fred if possible if not take the L and let him walk then do whatever is needed for the rest of the roster to build around the youth instead of playing starters 40+mins for losses and ruining the development of our young players.



Hmmm…Kessler rookie contract - 4 year / $13,372,418 v.s. Poeltl - 4 year / $72-80M contract.



Personally I thought it was evident from our two games against Utah that Kessler even as a rookie would have satisfied our needs at centre and we would had him to start the season. Similar skill set to Yak…huge L by Masai IMO.



Kessler, easily, based on contract value compared to production. Even with Kessler v Gobert, it'll be the same answer. It's very hindsight of course. Timberwolves should be laughed at for the Gobert trade.



Kessler it's not close. Value prop, production in general, I wish Danny Ainge was my president of operations.



Would Utah accept Koloko Thad and a frp Kessler? Serious question





Quotes from around the league



Damn why do you guys always find the next Eaton


Walker Kessler is gonna be a problem in this league, great young player



Bruh. Give Jazz credit as they were fighting for it all 4th but man that's just a inexcusable game to lose. Up 13-14 with 5 mins left and get like 4 points rest of the game.



Walker Kessler will haunt the Raptors franchise for many years…

Trading down for Koloko + Thad Young was already an L and then they traded even more picks for Poeltl to fill that role but none of that even comes close to how good his career will be



what a choke in the 4th quarter. and this hurts because supposedly we're not tanking anymore... and the Jazz are!!!



Danny Ainge “Time to tank boys”

Walker Kessler “ha **** that”



Fred VanVleet bet on himself and lost everything he's just like me fr



The Jazz go on that run in the 4th and he doesn't call time out? He plays Jakob SEVENTEEN MINUTES against a team that runs THREE seven-footers?



Bruther if lauri birdanen isnt MIP then the league is rigged



Not a coach, but am thinking that the Raptors should have considered getting a single defensive stop and/or scoring in the final 5 minutes.



There is a fight in Jazz after being depleted of manpower due to trade...



That was an incredible choke, and the tank lives on, but what in the ever living **** was that whistle in the 4th? It ended 12-2 in fouls.



Made a win now trade just to lose to the jazz who lost 3 of their top 8 players yesterday



That, my friends, is a top tier late-game implosion



Fred Vanvleet ****ing sucks.



Refs sucked a metric ton of *** In the 4Q but holy **** a team should never prolapse like the Raptors did in the last ~5 minutes.



If you don't like that you don't like Raptors basketball...



-18 for FVV tells the story of this game. Dude I can’t watch this for another year



Walker Kessler’s dropping 23 points now…



Olynk, Markannen and Kessler altogether on the floor is wild.
 
This is… one of the more interesting quote threads there’s been. Pretty universal hate for all their guys, coaching and management. This just goes to show how everything in the league is built on sand. There are no constants. Whereas yesteryear had everyone saying they wanted a GM like Massai, a coach like Nurse, or even that FVV was an underrated guy who would make a huge jump. All of this gone.

What happened during that 14-1 run I went to use washroom
Is that what they call it up there?

Made a win now trade just to lose to the jazz who lost 3 of their top 8 players yesterday
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So familiar in a lot of ways but instead of throwing draft pick after draft pick to find a PG they throw them away on Centers.


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