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I wish they would just release the full video set. Mainly because we have already seen so much of it that it is pretty clear the insurrection actually happened, but releasing all video would shut up the maga cultists once and for all, except for them pointing out all the bluetooth ear pieces as secret FBI agents. Maybe the buffalo hat guy was a secret FBI agent, nobody knows! Either way releasing the video can only be good for this whole thing. Let the internet sleuths tear it apart, all it does it provide more evidence for sedition against the mob.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I wish they would just release the full video set. Mainly because we have already seen so much of it that it is pretty clear the insurrection actually happened, but releasing all video would shut up the maga cultists once and for all, except for them pointing out all the bluetooth ear pieces as secret FBI agents. Maybe the buffalo hat guy was a secret FBI agent, nobody knows! Either way releasing the video can only be good for this whole thing. Let the internet sleuths tear it apart, all it does it provide more evidence for sedition against the mob.
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They won't though because you cultist can make post like this. Hell, they wont even say yes or no if they did have secret agents in the crowd. How about they do this too? Why hide that from people? Why hide anything? Why not allow Republicans on the Jan 6th committee outside of people who openly hate Trump?

The only people hiding anything is you and your cult. This is why you cultist would not allow chosen Republicans on the committee. Just the anti-Trump cultist.
 
When's the last time an actual president was forced into the WH bunker? Can any of you answer that?

Oh I will. When Democrats rioted at the White House forcing Trump in his family into the bunker. Luckily the national guard was there unlike Jan 6th because Democrats refused them.

Remember that terrorist? Democrats laughed and mocked Trump when insurrected. Hell what about CHOP where you cultist insurrected government buildings and killed children? Remember that?
 
Remember when Democrats rioted over 500 times that led to over 30 deaths including children, caused mass damage, burned churches, and insurrected Government facilities in Seattle and Portland...Remember? Cultist like @LogGrad98 cheered here though he'll lie that he didn't like the cultist he is.

Rioters Set Fire to Federal Courthouse in Portland One Day after Fencing Removed​


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Rioters Set Fire to Federal Courthouse in Portland One Day after Fencing Removed

Rioters targeted the federal courthouse in Portland, Ore., on Thursday evening in renewed clashes between demonstrators and federal police. The attack on the courthouse came one day after authorities removed fencing initially erected over the summer, in response to continued riots following the...
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LogGrad98 said:
I wish they would just release the full video set. Mainly because we have already seen so much of it that it is pretty clear the insurrection actually happened, but releasing all video would shut up the maga cultists once and for all, except for them pointing out all the bluetooth ear pieces as secret FBI agents. Maybe the buffalo hat guy was a secret FBI agent, nobody knows! Either way releasing the video can only be good for this whole thing. Let the internet sleuths tear it apart, all it does it provide more evidence for sedition against the mob.
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I see homeless people with bluetooth earpieces (mostly AirPods and knockoffs). While it's certainly possible that anyone wearing one in the insurrection was a federal agent, it's more likely they weren't there in an official capacty.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I wish they would just release the full video set. Mainly because we have already seen so much of it that it is pretty clear the insurrection actually happened, but releasing all video would shut up the maga cultists once and for all, except for them pointing out all the bluetooth ear pieces as secret FBI agents. Maybe the buffalo hat guy was a secret FBI agent, nobody knows! Either way releasing the video can only be good for this whole thing. Let the internet sleuths tear it apart, all it does it provide more evidence for sedition against the mob.
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While I agree with your main point, we have not "already seen so much of it". Less than a third of it has been seen by anyone outside law enforcement, and included in those not able to see the footage are defense attorneys in court cases. I don't see how that isn't a Brady violation, but this trove of video that legally should be in the public domain has been kept covered up using some shady acts by the capitol police and justice department. The entire trove needs to be put on a server for download to everyone who wants it.
 
SteakNEggs said:
Didn't the Jan 6th committee who had a surprise witness lie about Trump grabbing a steering wheel
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No, they did not have a witness that lied about that…..

“No, no, no, no, no. We don't want to go there. We don't want to talk about that.” Talk about what, pray tell?? Talk about Trump in the limo, maybe? Yeah, think so……

Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump tried to 'wrap his hands around' his Secret Service agent’s neck but she was advised not to tell the committee about it​

Former White House official Cassidy Hutchinson told the Jan. 6 committee how White House security chief Anthony Ornato told her after Trump’s Jan. 6, 2021 rally on the Ellipse that Trump had "tried to wrap his hands around Bobby’s neck and strangle him because he wouldn't take him to the Capitol." She was referring to Trump’s main Secret Service agent, Bobby Engel, who was in the presidential limousine with him when the president was told the Secret Service thought it was too dangerous to drive him to the Capitol to accompany an angry mob he had sent there during his fiery speech that morning.

Her closed-door testimony on Sept. 14 goes beyond her bombshell public testimony weeks earlier, when she said Trump lunged at the agent and tried to redirect the steering wheel. She also testified that when she recounted this to defense lawyer Stefan Passantino, whom she later fired and accused of trying to silence her, he said, "No, no, no, no, no. We don't want to go there. We don't want to talk about that.”

Passantino, who has denied wrongdoing, also told her to say she didn’t recall entire incidents even if she recalled a lot of detail, Hutchinson testified – including pardons sought by Trump associates and suspicious interactions between GOP lawmakers and her former boss, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, in the run-up to the attack on the Capitol. When she expressed worry that she’d be perjuring herself if she claimed not to recall such details, Passantino told her, “‘I don't recall’ is the best answer to any of that,” Hutchinson testified.

-Josh Meyer
www.usatoday.com

Ex-Trump aide inspired to testify after reading Watergate book - Jan. 6 recap

The House committee investigating the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021, is expected to release its final report Thursday.
www.usatoday.com
 
Red said:
No, they did not have a witness that lied about that…..
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Okay, explain that one please. Cassidy Hutchinson testified under oath before the J6 committee that Trump did not grab the wheel. She also testified under oath before the J6 committee that Trump did grab the wheel. She told the story both ways and in the press admitted that she lied.

"Stefan, I'm f*****d. I just lied," Hutchinson said she told Passantino. "I lied, I lied, I lied."

So we have a witness who told two opposite stories, both under oath, and admitted to lying, yet you want to convince everyone that she did not lie under oath about this incident because apparently you know better than Cassidy Hutchinson herself. Please explain.
 
Red said:
No, they did not have a witness that lied about that…..

“No, no, no, no, no. We don't want to go there. We don't want to talk about that.” Talk about what, pray tell?? Talk about Trump in the limo, maybe? Yeah, think so……

Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump tried to 'wrap his hands around' his Secret Service agent’s neck but she was advised not to tell the committee about it​

Former White House official Cassidy Hutchinson told the Jan. 6 committee how White House security chief Anthony Ornato told her after Trump’s Jan. 6, 2021 rally on the Ellipse that Trump had "tried to wrap his hands around Bobby’s neck and strangle him because he wouldn't take him to the Capitol." She was referring to Trump’s main Secret Service agent, Bobby Engel, who was in the presidential limousine with him when the president was told the Secret Service thought it was too dangerous to drive him to the Capitol to accompany an angry mob he had sent there during his fiery speech that morning.

Her closed-door testimony on Sept. 14 goes beyond her bombshell public testimony weeks earlier, when she said Trump lunged at the agent and tried to redirect the steering wheel. She also testified that when she recounted this to defense lawyer Stefan Passantino, whom she later fired and accused of trying to silence her, he said, "No, no, no, no, no. We don't want to go there. We don't want to talk about that.”

Passantino, who has denied wrongdoing, also told her to say she didn’t recall entire incidents even if she recalled a lot of detail, Hutchinson testified – including pardons sought by Trump associates and suspicious interactions between GOP lawmakers and her former boss, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, in the run-up to the attack on the Capitol. When she expressed worry that she’d be perjuring herself if she claimed not to recall such details, Passantino told her, “‘I don't recall’ is the best answer to any of that,” Hutchinson testified.

-Josh Meyer
www.usatoday.com

Ex-Trump aide inspired to testify after reading Watergate book - Jan. 6 recap

The House committee investigating the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021, is expected to release its final report Thursday.
www.usatoday.com
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Wow, you are really not that bright Cult man. The people in the actual vehicle say you are really gullible, and this is a lie. Please tell me you aren't this easily persuaded. You are the cult. You will go to any lengths to feed your Trump addiction, you even lie. Hutchinson wasn't even there you Cult, the guys in the actual car say she lied. You didn't even know this...


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Al-O-Meter said:
Okay, explain that one please. Cassidy Hutchinson testified under oath before the J6 committee that Trump did not grab the wheel. She also testified under oath before the J6 committee that Trump did grab the wheel. She told the story both ways and in the press admitted that she lied.

"Stefan, I'm f*****d. I just lied," Hutchinson said she told Passantino. "I lied, I lied, I lied."

So we have a witness who told two opposite stories, both under oath, and admitted to lying, yet you want to convince everyone that she did not lie under oath about this incident because apparently you know better than Cassidy Hutchinson herself. Please explain.
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Such disingenuous BS! Not to mention short of common sense! Don’t you know she was listening to her Trump side lawyer, felt guilty about not being truthful, and then felt guilt ridden enough to testify truthfully later? From the link I left: “And it was after I read this(the story of Butterfield’s testimony revealing the existence of Nixon’s Oval Office taping system) I was like, if I’m going to pass the mirror test for the rest of my life, I need to try to fix some of this,” Hutchinson told the committee.”

And this strikes you as something that no human being has ever experienced at any time in the history of the human race? On the contrary, I find it totally believable. I’ve lied at times, in the course of my life, and owned up to it if it was eating me up inside.
Damn, even the quote you used of her saying that to Passantino should have given you some clue as to why she was in that state of mind.

It’s called being human.

I do believe, if you are in fact a human being, that, like virtually any other human being, you would recognize when someone is feeling guilty and wanting to tell the truth and get it off her chest so she does not have to live with the lie for the remainder of her life.

This reply of your’s is one of your silliest ever, and shows how far you are willing to stretch. Sometimes you are desperate, and you should think before showing your desperation…
 
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Red said:
Such disingenuous BS! Not to mention short of common sense! Don’t you know she was listening to her Trump side lawyer, felt guilty about not being truthful, and then felt guilt ridden enough to testify truthfully later? From the link I left: “And it was after I read this(the story of Butterfield’s testimony revealing the existence of Nixon’s Oval Office taping system) I was like, if I’m going to pass the mirror test for the rest of my life, I need to try to fix some of this,” Hutchinson told the committee.”

And this strikes you as something that no human being has ever experienced at any time in the history of the human race? On the contrary, I find it totally believable. I’ve lied at times, in the course of my life, and owned up to it if it was eating me up inside.
Damn, even the quote you used of her saying that to Passantino should have given you some clue as to why she was in that state of mind.

It’s called being human.

I do believe, if you are in fact a human being, that, like virtually any other human being, you would recognize when someone is feeling guilty and wanting to tell the truth and get it off her chest so she does not have to live with the lie for the remainder of her life.

This reply of your’s is one of your silliest ever, and shows how far you are willing to stretch. Sometimes you are desperate, and you should think before showing your desperation…
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You cultist the people in the actual vehicle were willing to testify she lied. There is literally zero evidence this happened besides to people like you that believe anything. This is why they didn't even pursue it.
 
First hand testimony is valid evidence in a court of law...
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Okay, explain that one please.
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Simple. Red understood (perhaps inaccurately) that SteakandEggs meant the witness lied to falsely accuse Trump, and rebutted that context for the statement, when in fact the witness initially lied to protect Trump, and later told the truth against the advice of her counsel.

www.businessinsider.com

Cassidy Hutchinson says she initially lied to the January 6 committee about a claim that Trump grabbed the steering wheel of his SUV and lunged at a Secret Service agent

Hutchinson said she "lied" at the direction of her attorney Stefan Passantino, who she said instructed her to mislead the committee.
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