2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[SoberasHotRod]

If we don't draft a pg I think its a hint we address it in FA and then we are taking a fast track. Bilal should be able to function in Ochai bench type minutes early and grow from there.

I picture him spending most of his time in the G-League next year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I see it the other way, I don't think we should go PG at #9 because it's likely that Keyonte, Cason, Bufkin, JHS will be there. At #9 I think you take whoever falls or Bilal/Dick.....I guess there's a chance Black doesn't go top 8, but I'm assuming he does and that leaves us with a choice between Ausar/Hendricks/Walker (whoever falls) and Bilal/Dick. I'd take one of these guys and wait on the PG/combo guard.

Its more about my personal belief in the guys in that range. I don't think George is a pg, I don't think JHS is good. After Bufkin I'm not a big fan of the pgs. Miller isn't a wing but I love him... so if Bilal isn't there I think Miller has a chance to be. I'd settle in on Hawkins if they all got snatched up. I'd have Cason, Black, Bufkin all a tier above the other pg prospects... my first choice is take a falling wing. I might take Walker as trade bait and move back to get the guard I want.

 

[Jingled]

So I think George/Bilal is not an ideal outcome... especially if we trade up. As I think we could have 3 guys in that top 25. If you told me we landed Black/Wallace and Bilal but had to move up... then fine.

Yeah, I'd feel a lot better about Black/Wallace or even Bufkin and Bilal. Just a lot of guards I would rather have than George.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I get what you are saying, but I'm thinking a more proven guy at 9 could be ready to contribute by the end of year 1, early year 2. I see Bilal as a guy that takes 2-3 years just to bulk up and get up to NBA speed. I could be wrong.

Yeah but most of these guys were pretty underwhelming college players. If we are going the most proven route, it would probably be Gradey Dick at 9? He was one of the better freshman in the hardest conference on a team that is known for not being Freshman friendly.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I picture him spending most of his time in the G-League next year.

I would want him with the varsity team early. I think you can survive with one wing taking 12-15 minutes a night for dev purposes. Maybe he bounces back and forth a little but there is no need for us to bring a wing guy along slowly imo.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

A Black/George draft would be pretty nice tbh.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If I were Dallas, I'd ask to swap THJ for Ochai -- better money, better defense, equal shooting. Don't think the Jazz would do that though.

I refuse to fall for the Ochai trade bait trap... not today satan!

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Interesting. Basically what I guessed yesterday but the inclusion of George is an interesting note. If we still had DL I'd call Keyonte a lock.

Of all the players in this draft, Keyonte is probably the most likely to drill 28-ft 3s off the bounce. There's value in that. He can self-create at three levels. At the end of the day, it's a game about getting buckets, and Keyonte can create looks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Of all the players in this draft, Keyonte is probably the most likely to drill 28-ft 3s off the bounce. There's value in that. He can self-create at three levels. At the end of the day, it's a game about getting buckets, and Keyonte can create looks.

He definitely passes the eye test with his shooting. I've been kind of off on him, but he's one of those guys like MaX Lewis were I'll rewatch his stuff and be like oh yeah, this is why some people love his upside.

 

[KqWIN]

Its more about my personal belief in the guys in that range. I don't think George is a pg, I don't think JHS is good. After Bufkin I'm not a big fan of the pgs. Miller isn't a wing but I love him... so if Bilal isn't there I think Miller has a chance to be. I'd settle in on Hawkins if they all got snatched up. I'd have Cason, Black, Bufkin all a tier above the other pg prospects... my first choice is take a falling wing. I might take Walker as trade bait and move back to get the guard I want.

I like George so my view is a bit different, but I also feel like these are also the BPA guys and I also don’t think we have to draft a PG. If we don’t take the falling wing, Bilal, or Dick we cannot get them later. They won’t fall.

I just want to avoid a situation where we draft a PG and the BPA guys at 16 are also PG/combo guard. I don’t love the other options at 16. Miller would be a nice pick, I suppose, but I’m not in love with Brice/Jett/Hawkins. I like Keyonte more than them even if Keyonte can’t play PG.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Interesting intel from Stein. We should all be mentally prepared to take Bilal in the top 10. Feels like a reach, but if they like him that much I definitely would talk myself into it, especially with our development staff. I just hope Ainge doesn't have Giannis PTSD and is just determined to not get burned again, even if he doesn't think Bilal is all that.

Bilal and Keyonte would feel like a very odd, aimless draft. Especially if we used 28 to move up from 16 to get George. Settle in for a nice long rebuild if that's what happens.

Edit: The real issue with Bilal at 9 is that it's literally impossible for there not to be a guy I really like at 9. Even at 10 it makes way more sense, but passing on Black, Hendricks, or someone else who fell there is a tough sell. Get that Mavs pick!

I don't t think Bilal is a reach at #9 necessarily. Outside the top 7 or 8 players in this draft, there doesn't appear to be a consensus on who the next best player is. Keyonte, Cason, Kobe, Bilal, Dick, etc. are all eye-of-the-beholder type players. The Jazz just need to decide who their guy is. Whoever the Jazz take at #9, people will say the Jazz should have traded down to #11 or #12, but those deals probably aren't available.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

He definitely passes the eye test with his shooting. I've been kind of off on him, but he's one of those guys like MaX Lewis were I'll rewatch his stuff and be like oh yeah, this is why some people love his upside.

His release is beautiful. His problem is that he gets sped up, gets rushed on his shot, and gets off balance. That should be fixable in theory. He may just be better playing more off the ball.

Earlier in the year, I thought he was a top 6 or 7 prospect. I think he's the closest comp to Bradley Beal in this draft.

 

[whatthe]

Sidy will be better than Black.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I would want him with the varsity team early. I think you can survive with one wing taking 12-15 minutes a night for dev purposes. Maybe he bounces back and forth a little but there is no need for us to bring a wing guy along slowly imo.

We're getting way too ahead of ourselves, but he might be an absolute disaster to start the NBA and need time to gain confidence. Bouncing back and forth is probably a better description, so I like that.

Whatever the case, I'll trust that Hardy will have a good development plan for him.

 

[stitches]

I refuse to fall for the Ochai trade bait trap... not today satan!

Is Ochai more or less attractive of a trade bait than Trey Lyles was when we used him to trade up for Mitchell?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Sidy will be better than Black.

Sir this isn’t the hot take thread.

 

[KqWIN]

I don’t doubt that Bilal is somewhat of a risk and swing for the fences, but I still don’t know why taking a swing on one of the twins at 9 would be a no brainer and Bilal is some crazy reach. Bilal is a lot younger and also looked like MJ against some subpar competition. But what he has that the twins don’t is experience in a highly competitive pro environment.

Part of the appeal with Bilal for me is that he has a very easy path to being a good useful pro. His defense is already great and there’s a really strong chance he can be the player he is for Mets92 in the NBA. Safe landing imo. Who knows if the sky high upside materializes, but at the very least you’re getting a really long athlete who wants to play defense.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

lol at anyone taking Bilal like he is the next Greek Freak smh

He's not the next Greek Freak. You're hoping that he becomes the French Penny Hardaway, or at least that he's the third Thompson Twin.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I like George so my view is a bit different, but I also feel like these are also the BPA guys and I also don’t think we have to draft a PG. If we don’t take the falling wing, Bilal, or Dick we cannot get them later. They won’t fall.

I just want to avoid a situation where we draft a PG and the BPA guys at 16 are also PG/combo guard. I don’t love the other options at 16. Miller would be a nice pick, I suppose, but I’m not in love with Brice/Jett/Hawkins. I like Keyonte more than them even if Keyonte can’t play PG.

I think Bilal could fall to 16. I think the interwebs draft gurus and fans are likely a bit higher on him than NBA front offices. Rather than take him at 9 I'd look to move back and chance it that he will be there at 12 or 13. If he isn't then Wallace, Black, or Dick will be.

We don't have to get a pg... I agree... just not sure where our pgotf comes from if we don't draft one this year. Unless they think they can nab FVV or Quickley then I would recommend drafting the pg at 9... bunch of ways we could go at 16 including trading back, miller or taking a combo guard. At 9 I'm not getting cute and taking BPA. IF they think Bilal is that then go for it.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Of all the players in this draft, Keyonte is probably the most likely to drill 28-ft 3s off the bounce. There's value in that. He can self-create at three levels. At the end of the day, it's a game about getting buckets, and Keyonte can create looks.

yup. he is probably the most skilled all around offensive player in the draft when you talk about he ability to score from everywhere on the floor, with range, put it on the floor and create for himself and for teammates, etc - the big question with George is whether he can be efficient with it.