Jazz trade for John Collins

[originalsin]

I trust DA , he doesn’t make a move just to make a move
There is a method to his madness

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Feels like a slight dig at you… seems blatant.

I ain't got time for @Bodhi to get in his damn feels today alright... we got a trade to pick apart.

 

[David Stern]

Surely this is goodbye to KO and he gets traded and do we have enough space to sign Kuzma ?

Why would we want Kuzma at this point?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

a trade that cements the #9 pick in the draft to the bench. fun.

that said, i'm a john collins fan, always have been, therefore a fan of the trade and hopefully jc can overcome the finger injury.

 

[slc]

Still like KO on team
He can just be pushed down the depth chart and situational with less minutes

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Why would we want Kuzma at this point?

yep. this trade basically sealed the deal on any potential kuzma acquisition

 

[HermanG]

I wonder if the naysayers can find someone who hates this move from our perspective and represents one of the following:
A) National media
B) Jazz beat writers
C) Hawks beat writers
D) Hawks fan base

So far Ive tried searching but weirdly everyone seems to like this trade for us and be sad/neutral for the Hawks having to do this.

Oh and about the opportunity cost and handicapping our cap flexibility... Bobby Marks did a vid where he was high praising our cap and roster flexibility after the trade. Apparently now we have both healthy current/future cap numbers as well as awesome collection of moveable salaries.

 

[HermanG]

yep. this trade basically sealed the deal on any potential kuzma acquisition

It also sealed that Kuzma likely wont get 100/4 from anywhere.

 

[Mikle12]

We have no small forwards or wings that’s why I thought the reason we were chasing kuzma when teams play small ball against us we will struggle

 

[TheStormofWar]

Few things.

• On the face, I don't hate this from a depth perspective. I don't know that Collins is better than Kuzma, but it's a better price point. I expect Hardy will have some uses for JC and if his shooting form recovers (which is should if the backhalf of last season is accurate), we're good. If Collins recovers his form, he becomes a very valuable asset to trade later on. He's also relatively young still. I wish we got an asset with it, but Collins will probably be enough of an asset by himself.

• Very funny that Gay gets traded out of Utah during Pride Month.

• I suspect Hendricks will still get minutes, just not as much as I was hoping.

• Can Lauri run the 3 as a Point Forward?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Still like KO on team
He can just be pushed down the depth chart and situational with less minutes

If he stays I think Collins or KO/Hendricks operate as the backup 5... which hopefully means there is at least 15+ minutes for both guys. I think KO may be on the move... but not guaranteed.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

At least we'll have Collins Sexton for a while.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

sup dudes. Happy to see that some of the board's best are still here. Lost access to my old account, but wanted to pop in a few times this summer and get your takes about a few things.

(1) Our front court is pretty stacked and match-up proof at this point. (2) Off ball, we should have plenty of screening and secondary playmaking from the advantages that we create there. I like what I see in (1) and (2), but I think we'll really struggle without a primary playmaker to orchestrate. I moaned when we acquired Conley (price, age, etc.), but he'd be perfect for this team at this stage. Lowry (plus some draft capital) would be a great get.

You're not dead?

 

[NUMBERICA]

sup dudes. Happy to see that some of the board's best are still here. Lost access to my old account, but wanted to pop in a few times this summer and get your takes about a few things.

(1) Our front court is pretty stacked and match-up proof at this point. (2) Off ball, we should have plenty of screening and secondary playmaking from the advantages that we create there. I like what I see in (1) and (2), but I think we'll really struggle without a primary playmaker to orchestrate. I moaned when we acquired Conley (price, age, etc.), but he'd be perfect for this team at this stage. Lowry (plus some draft capital) would be a great get.

!!!

We probably/basically can't do that Lowry deal now.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

You're not dead?

No. Just had to move into witness protection... and to a country that I cannot disclose.

 

[Elizah Huge]

!!!

We probably/basically can't do that Lowry deal now.

We easily could if we send our KO for him.

 

[Flc]

We have no small forwards or wings that’s why I thought the reason we were chasing kuzma when teams play small ball against us we will struggle

We aren't competing for a championship this year. By the time we are, Collins is insanely effective in his role or we've used him as trade bait. No point considering "fit" at the moment - the Jazz want the broadest portfolio of value and talent possible and will tweak from there. Getting a player, who in a return to form and different role, is a talented and valuable asset for the cost of a second-round pick is a no-brainer.

 

[default]

I thought I trolled this forum. Either people on this forum are delusional/just want the Jazz to legitimately lose every game, or the organization can't do the couch warriors what they want.

This off-season has already been a homerun for the Jazz. We don't have to watch Gay 15-20 minutes a game, we got a 25 year old for him. We've added a lot of young, athletic talent, that can shoot, and it's not even July 1st. Ya'll need to stop trolling so hard

Is it draft day yet?

 

[NUMBERICA]

We easily could if we send our KO for him.

I've just been chewing on that between the time I posted and reading this point.

 

[TheStormofWar]

I also suspect an Olynyk deal maybe imminent.