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John Stockton Claims Medicine is Bad

Douchebag K said:
a heart problem. Dude his heart stopped. Who knows why but doesn’t rhe fact that cardiac issues are a known potential side effect for young healthy men post vaccination make you even mildly curious about why ? Or no biggie ??

I’m not saying the jab is why at all with this young man, nobody knows atm but the lack of answers and more disturbing lack of investigation into the excess deaths is mind boggling and kinda disturbing
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Ya when i was in training to be a first responder we watched some real life video footage of a 17 year old girl who was a great volleyball player who dropped dead on the court. A de-fib and cpr were used to save her life. Turns out she had an unknown issue with one of her heart valves. She had this issue since birth. She was so lucky it happened when it did because she got immediate care. She was going on a long hiking trip out of country the next week and if it happened then, she would have died.
This happened years before covid.

Point is this type of stuff happens sometimes.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya when i was in training to be a first responder we watched some real life video footage of a 17 year old girl who was a great volleyball player who dropped dead on the court. A de-fib and cpr were used to save her life. Turns out she had an unknown issue with one of her heart valves. She had this issue since birth. She was so lucky it happened when it did because she got immediate care. She was going on a long hiking trip out of country the next week and if it happened then, she would have died.
This happened years before covid.

Point is this type of stuff happens sometimes.
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Good post. And the numbers speak to this. Cardiac arrest incidents among young people over the last 20 years. It’s been a pretty stable number.
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fishonjazz said:
Ya when i was in training to be a first responder we watched some real life video footage of a 17 year old girl who was a great volleyball player who dropped dead on the court. A de-fib and cpr were used to save her life. Turns out she had an unknown issue with one of her heart valves. She had this issue since birth. She was so lucky it happened when it did because she got immediate care. She was going on a long hiking trip out of country the next week and if it happened then, she would have died.
This happened years before covid.

Point is this type of stuff happens sometimes.
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Yeah I remember Hank Gathers dropping dead in a college game
 
Douchebag K said:
a heart problem. Dude his heart stopped. Who knows why but doesn’t rhe fact that cardiac issues are a known potential side effect for young healthy men post vaccination make you even mildly curious about why ? Or no biggie ??
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This is using the a personal tragedy of a somewhat-famous person to score rhetorical flourishes. It's icky.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This is an interesting read. Still leaves the question of causation unanswered but the data is interesting. 43% increase in deaths for Republicans vs Democrats following the release of the first vaccines. Not before but after.

gizmodo.com

Excess Deaths Among Republicans Skyrocketed After Covid Vaccine Became Available, Study Finds

More Republicans died in the months following the release of the Covid vaccine than Democrats, a new study reveals.
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I think we know why:

1. Mistrust for the vaccine skyrocketed among Republicans once Biden took office.
2. Fox News and the right wing propaganda apparatus went into overdrive to promote disinformation. In a weird way, they wanted to prolong the pandemic to win politically for the midterms.
3. I’m guessing that those identified as R engaged in riskier behavior than their D counterparts; i. e. No masks, church, Kook medicines and remedies (horse dewormer and hydroxy), attended concerts, restaurant eating, etc.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This is an interesting read. Still leaves the question of causation unanswered but the data is interesting. 43% increase in deaths for Republicans vs Democrats following the release of the first vaccines. Not before but after.

gizmodo.com

Excess Deaths Among Republicans Skyrocketed After Covid Vaccine Became Available, Study Finds

More Republicans died in the months following the release of the Covid vaccine than Democrats, a new study reveals.
gizmodo.com gizmodo.com
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Rednecks are less healthy ??
 
LogGrad98 said:
This is an interesting read. Still leaves the question of causation unanswered but the data is interesting. 43% increase in deaths for Republicans vs Democrats following the release of the first vaccines. Not before but after.

gizmodo.com

Excess Deaths Among Republicans Skyrocketed After Covid Vaccine Became Available, Study Finds

More Republicans died in the months following the release of the Covid vaccine than Democrats, a new study reveals.
gizmodo.com gizmodo.com
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The way the finally admittedly overcounted covid deaths makes this study worthless. I cant believe this stuff- looking at the comments on this article makes me sick. People gleeful of americans dying because they are on the red team, even the way these folks talk about their own family members in the comments is sickening.

www.nytimes.com

A Positive Covid Milestone (Published 2023)

In a sign that the pandemic really is over, the total number of Americans dying each day is no longer historically abnormal.
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"The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category."
 
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Mongoose said:
"The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category."
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If covid19 is a contributing cause of death, that means the person would have lived longer without covid.

www.respectfulinsolence.com

The "only 6%" gambit: The latest viral COVID-19 disinformation

New COVID-19 disinformation deceptively claims that "only 6%" of the deaths attributed to COVID-19 were due to coronavirus. It's nonsense.
www.respectfulinsolence.com www.respectfulinsolence.com

For example, if a patient dies of respiratory failure due to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), which was the result of pneumonia, which was the result of COVID-19, the proximal cause of death was the respiratory failure, but contributing causes were ARDS and COVID-19, with the one farthest up the chain being the underlying cause of death under Part I. If the patient had hypertension or asthma, that would go under Part II. As I like to say, if you suffer a cardiac arrest due to blood loss after being shot, the cardiac arrest might have been the proximal cause of death, but you still died of a gunshot wound.

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Sometimes these underlying causes contribute to the death. For example, if you have hemophilia and suffer a stab wound that leads you to bleed out and die when someone with normal blood clotting probably would have survived, then you still died of a stab wound, but the hemophilia was a contributing cause of death.
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One Brow said:
If covid19 is a contributing cause of death, that means the person would have lived longer without covid.

www.respectfulinsolence.com

The "only 6%" gambit: The latest viral COVID-19 disinformation

New COVID-19 disinformation deceptively claims that "only 6%" of the deaths attributed to COVID-19 were due to coronavirus. It's nonsense.
www.respectfulinsolence.com www.respectfulinsolence.com
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I understand what comorbidity is and that is exactly what the article is saying they misrepresented. It’s pretty simple- if the data they use is no good, so is the stupid study using that crappy data.
Your q'anon (or should I say blueanon) article doesn’t make any sense in relation to the article I referenced. They overcounted COVID deaths by 1/3 or at least that is what they are admitting to so realistically it’s probably worse then that. It might not only be 6% like your article says but we’re still a long *** way from having good data which is my point.
Lograds idiotic study that fuels bias and idiotic statements like thrillers is worthless.
 
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Mongoose said:
I understand what comorbidity is and that is exactly what the article is saying they misrepresented.
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The linked article refers to excess deaths. I'm sure you'll say you know what excess deaths are, but it's strange that you would connect covid as "the underlying cause of death" to excess deaths.

Mongoose said:
Your q'anon (or should I say blueanon) article doesn’t make any sense in relation to the article I referenced.
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Could you link to the article you referenced?

Mongoose said:
They overcounted COVID deaths by 1/3 or at least
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"They"? The article @LogGrad98 linked to referred to excess deaths, not covid mortality. If you have another explanation for the excess deaths, let's hear it.
 
The Thriller said:
Gets an envelope from the church that contains information for where they’re going to serve a mission and when to report to the MTC.

Although now I think it’s done through email.
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They do still send a physical letter. I think it can be both.

For @Gameface it can be a real event to open your mission call letter. Often gathering family and friends around to see where you are going and when. For my daughter's call we did a skype call with my parents and even some cousins and such from out of state. To find out she was going to the Jackson, Mississippi mission. Most of the time I think most kids are hoping for something exotic. Mine was to Munich Germany (as was @colton 's I believe, we met each other in the MTC, he went German-speaking anyway). I had a friend who went to Korea, so those tend to me more "exciting". But it is still an event for Mormon families as it is a big step for the kids to take.
 
LogGrad98 said:
They do still send a physical letter. I think it can be both.

For @Gameface it can be a real event to open your mission call letter. Often gathering family and friends around to see where you are going and when. For my daughter's call we did a skype call with my parents and even some cousins and such from out of state. To find out she was going to the Jackson, Mississippi mission. Most of the time I think most kids are hoping for something exotic. Mine was to Munich Germany (as was @colton 's I believe, we met each other in the MTC, he went German-speaking anyway). I had a friend who went to Korea, so those tend to me more "exciting". But it is still an event for Mormon families as it is a big step for the kids to take.
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A quick story about my call. I was on the fence about going at all. I put in my papers, largely for my parents. But I literally wrote on the paperwork that I will not go to Germany. I had taken 6 years of German through Jr High and High School and I didn't want to do anything more with the language. I wanted to go foreign but english speaking, like maybe australia, where a leader in my ward whom I greatly looked up to had gone on his mission. Anyway, my parents knew this, they knew I was on the fence and might not accept the call. So when I opened my envelope and it said "Munich Germany Mission", my mom instantly burst into tears. I didn't want to deal with that and I needed time to process this so I of course stormed off, grabbed my jacket and helmet and jumped on my motorcycle and sped away. I drove around for a few hours, then came home. Everyone had settled down. In the end, a really good friend of mine helped me work through things and I of course went. I met my wife on my mission, and have been married 31 years now, so you could say that it completely changed my life to go on my mission, and I loved it. Sometimes I wish I could go back to my mission times, when things were simpler and more fun and exciting than regular life. But I am grateful I went, and it had a huge impact on me and my family, and of course meeting my wife there was the biggest factor.

So anyway, that's my story in a nutshell.
 
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