The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[Rubashov]

At the time, the Canadian parliament thought he was a Ukrainian nationalist, a hero who fought against Soviet oppression.

Various far right groups existed prior to the German invasion of the Soviet Union and saw Nazis as a friend (the enemy of my enemy). There had been a desire among some for sovereignty for centuries but the Holodomor set the stage for groups looking for assistance from even Nazis. America did the same thing when we teamed up with Stalin to defeat Hitler. Ukrainian nationalists miscalculated as Nazis had no intention of helping them gain sovereignty. But then again, it wasn’t like they had great lives under Stalin.

So yes, this is a gray area.

Its lazy ****ing staff work, it should have been properly checked and vetted.

 

[The Thriller]

Its lazy ****ing staff work, it should have been properly checked and vetted.

I don’t disagree. The Canadian parliament apologized after. I don’t follow Canadian politics a lot, but I think some people lost positions or committee asssignments as a result. But it’s disingenuous for anti Ukrainian posters on here to smear Ukrainian nationalists (past or current) as mere Nazis. As if the movement was based on racial ideology rather than independence from Stalin and the USSR.

What these posters are doing is merely regurgitating kremlin propaganda that’s so prevalent online on the right in order to undermine support from western democracies. Especially when you consider that many in the right in America currently support a Hitler-like authoritarian for president.

 

[JimLes]

Various far right groups existed prior to the German invasion of the Soviet Union and saw Nazis as a friend (the enemy of my enemy). There had been a desire among some for sovereignty for centuries but the Holodomor set the stage for groups looking for assistance from even Nazis. America did the same thing when we teamed up with Stalin to defeat Hitler. Ukrainian nationalists miscalculated as Nazis had no intention of helping them gain sovereignty. But then again, it wasn’t like they had great lives under Stalin.

Did you even read what I wrote? The nationalists you're talking about were all born in Austria-Hungary(look up Bandera) and had never lived, organized their movement, or done anything in either Russian Empire or Soviet Union. Galicia didn't become part of USSR until 1946, and even then, only the eastern half. Ukrainian nationalism that you're talking about is the product of the Greek Catholic intelligentsia of Galicia. It had nothing to do with Holodomor, which once again, didn't happen in Galicia.

And I'm not sure why you're bringing up Stalin, because neither Hunka nor any of the OUN members and leaders ever lived under Stalin.

Do you actually know anything about the history of Ukraine and its borders in the last 300 years?

 

[Douchebag K]

Did you even read what I wrote? The nationalists you're talking about were all born in Austria-Hungary(look up Bandera) and had never lived, organized their movement, or done anything in either Russian Empire or Soviet Union. Galicia didn't become part of USSR until 1946, and even then, only the eastern half. Ukrainian nationalism that you're talking about is the product of the Greek Catholic intelligentsia of Galicia. It had nothing to do with Holodomor, which once again, didn't happen in Galicia.

And I'm not sure why you're bringing up Stalin, because neither Hunka nor any of the OUN members and leaders ever lived under Stalin.

Do you actually know anything about the history of Ukraine and its borders in the last 300 years?

that ****wit Thriller knows precious little about anything. Never stops him displaying his ignorance.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Of course Thriller is making excuses for celebrating a Nazi then blaming the Republicans. My God dude...

Remember when some mocked me mercifully for pointing out that Ukraine is an extremely corrupt country and always has been? Ukraine is a garbage country (SO IS RUSSIA) that's led by a dictator who has attacked political opponents, stopped voting and become a true fascist. Again f* Putin that POS but to sit support such a historically racist, corrupt and downright fascist country then mock me is ridiculous.

Keep in mind that the Biden Cartel(amongst other politicians) made A LOT of money off of Ukraine. And now even politico admits he's always in a rush to send BILLIONS of dollars... I wonder why... could it be because the Biden Cartel is hiding something? They made tens of millions of of Ukraine for absolutely nothing.... At this point that conspiracy territory but hopefully the inquiry can get the records a the Biden Cartel are hiding.

Biden administration officials are far more worried about corruption in Ukraine than they publicly admit, a confidential U.S. strategy document obtained by POLITICO suggests.

The “sensitive but unclassified” version of the long-term U.S. plan lays out numerous steps Washington is taking to help Kyiv root out malfeasance and otherwise reform an array of Ukrainian sectors. It stresses that corruption could cause Western allies to abandon Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion, and that Kyiv cannot put off the anti-graft effort.

Leaked U.S. strategy on Ukraine sees corruption as the real threat

A report obtained by POLITICO details specific plans to reform Ukrainian institutions and warns Western support may hinge on cutting corruption.

www.politico.com

 

[Mongoose]

European countries are turning on this war quickly. I think they are getting tired of supporting this corrupt money laundering scam. Poland recently elected a new president that ran on peace, Slovakia did as well. Now we see the leading candidate for Germany is anti-war. I’m happy to see this. I hope we can find a peaceful resolution in the near future, but I’m not sure the greedy, bloodthirsty, warmongers in Washington will allow peace to happen.


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[fishonjazz]

European countries are turning on this war quickly. I think they are getting tired of supporting this corrupt money laundering scam. Poland recently elected a new president that ran on peace, Slovakia did as well. Now we see the leading candidate for Germany is anti-war. I’m happy to see this. I hope we can find a peaceful resolution in the near future, but I’m not sure the greedy, bloodthirsty, warmongers in Washington will allow peace to happen.


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So are you saying that if countries simply stop supplying Ukraine with any kind of aid that Russia would go home? Why can't they just go home right now while Ukraine is receiving aid?

 

[Sardines]

So are you saying that if countries simply stop supplying Ukraine with any kind of aid that Russia would go home? Why can't they just go home right now while Ukraine is receiving aid?

Apparently peace is invading a peaceful neighbor, taking territory, then blaming them for not letting you keep it to the point that "peace lovers" all over the world tell them to stop fighting back.

Similarly, if someone mugs you on the street but after they take your wallet they drop their guard and you punch them and take it back then you are the violent one who doesn't respect law and order.

I mean it makes perfect sense when you don't think about it.

 

[One Brow]

European countries are turning on this war quickly. I think they are getting tired of supporting this corrupt money laundering scam. Poland recently elected a new president that ran on peace, Slovakia did as well. Now we see the leading candidate for Germany is anti-war. I’m happy to see this. I hope we can find a peaceful resolution in the near future, but I’m not sure the greedy, bloodthirsty, warmongers in Washington will allow peace to happen.

Neville Chamberlain has risen from the grave. Letting Russia absorb Ukrainian territory doesn't mean peace, it means more war in another 3 or 4 years. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and annexed territory. They invaded Ukraine in 2015 and seized Crimea. How many times do they need to invade neighbors before you see that they will not stop?

 

[Mongoose]

So are you saying that if countries simply stop supplying Ukraine with any kind of aid that Russia would go home? Why can't they just go home right now while Ukraine is receiving aid?

I’m saying that hopefully we can find a peaceful resolution.
To simplify the video I posted of the NATO attorney general saying that Putin had issues with nato expansion on his borders and expressed his concerns to nato leadership. NATO continued to expand and he continues to have issues with it. Putin threatened to invade Ukraine if NATO continued to expand and NATO continued to expand.

If the Russians wanted to put let’s say missiles in Cuba I think the USA would have issues with that because of its proximity to our border. Maybe nato has considerations that the Russians would accept for peace with Ukraine? Should we be interested to know what the people in these European countries know that would lead to the lack of support for Ukraine? I know what a lot of Americans think is happening in Ukraine I wonder what these folks think is happening over there, right next to them.

 

[fishonjazz]

I’m saying that hopefully we can find a peaceful resolution.
To simplify the video I posted of the NATO attorney general saying that Putin had issues with nato expansion on his borders and expressed his concerns to nato leadership. NATO continued to expand and he continues to have issues with it. Putin threatened to invade Ukraine if NATO continued to expand and NATO continued to expand.

If the Russians wanted to put let’s say missiles in Cuba I think the USA would have issues with that because of its proximity to our border. Maybe nato has considerations that the Russians would accept for peace with Ukraine? Should we be interested to know what the people in these European countries know that would lead to the lack of support for Ukraine? I know what a lot of Americans think is happening in Ukraine I wonder what these folks think is happening over there, right next to them.

You didn't answer the question.
Do you think if countries stop giving aid to Ukraine that Russia would then just pack up and go home?
What is stopping them from packing up and going home right now?

 

[fishonjazz]

Apparently peace is invading a peaceful neighbor, taking territory, then blaming them for not letting you keep it to the point that "peace lovers" all over the world tell them to stop fighting back.

Similarly, if someone mugs you on the street but after they take your wallet they drop their guard and you punch them and take it back then you are the violent one who doesn't respect law and order.

I mean it makes perfect sense when you don't think about it.

It's like Trumpers most recent defense of Trump's issues of fraudulently inflating his assets to acquire favorable loans.
The defense is basically that is not his fault that he lied about the value of his assets, it's the banks fault for believing him and not doing their due diligence.

I mean if I successfully rob a bank then how exactly did I do anything wrong? It's the banks fault for not having better security.

If I go to the dark web and gather up all your personal information and then use your personal information to take out loans then I didn't actually ever do anything wrong. The companies that gave me loans should have investigated me more thoroughly.

This is how maga, of which mongoose is so so clearly a part of, thinks. It's idiotic but here we are. Gonna have to add him to the jazzy fresh steak and eggs ignore list at this point.

 

[Mongoose]

You didn't answer the question.
Do you think if countries stop giving aid to Ukraine that Russia would then just pack up and go home?
What is stopping them from packing up and going home right now?

I think if all aid stopped Russia will have won. I think it’d be a good idea to find a potential solution before all aid stops.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think if all aid stopped Russia will have won. I think it’d be a good idea to find a potential solution before all aid stops.

What does "winning" look like? No one gets hurt in this scenario? Just lots of good old fashioned peace?

I remember us winning would war 2 and desert storm. Didn't look all that peaceful. Death and destruction seems to always come along with the winning. See in order for someone to win, someone else has to lose. Which isn't peaceful. The only solution that actually equals peace is for Russia to pack up and go home.
On that note, I'm done dealing with your stupidity.

 

[Mongoose]

What does "winning" look like? No one gets hurt in this scenario? Just lots of good old fashioned peace?

I remember us winning would war 2 and desert storm. Didn't look all that peaceful. Death and destruction seems to always come along with the winning. See in order for someone to win, someone else has to lose. Which isn't peaceful. The only solution that actually equals peace is for Russia to pack up and go home.
On that note, I'm done dealing with your stupidity.

Lol- what are you even talking about?
Your talking about winning a war and I’m talking about peace. Winning a war and finding peace are different things. Nobody wins in war and the war already started. I have to explain this, but I’m the stupid one?

 

[Sardines]

I’m saying that hopefully we can find a peaceful resolution.
To simplify the video I posted of the NATO attorney general saying that Putin had issues with nato expansion on his borders and expressed his concerns to nato leadership. NATO continued to expand and he continues to have issues with it. Putin threatened to invade Ukraine if NATO continued to expand and NATO continued to expand.

If the Russians wanted to put let’s say missiles in Cuba I think the USA would have issues with that because of its proximity to our border. Maybe nato has considerations that the Russians would accept for peace with Ukraine? Should we be interested to know what the people in these European countries know that would lead to the lack of support for Ukraine? I know what a lot of Americans think is happening in Ukraine I wonder what these folks think is happening over there, right next to them.

NATO can expand all it wants and Putin can deal with it. NATO expansion requires full consent of the country joining and all NATO members. It is peaceful and perfectly legitimate. Putin doesn't have to like it, but he certainly can't justify an invasion of another country over it.

 

[Mongoose]

NATO can expand all it wants and Putin can deal with it. NATO expansion requires full consent of the country joining and all NATO members. It is peaceful and perfectly legitimate. Putin doesn't have to like it, but he certainly can't justify an invasion of another country over it.

How diplomatic of you. We may sometimes need to be neighborly with those that have nuclear arsenals.

 

[Sardines]

How diplomatic of you. We may sometimes need to be neighborly with those that have nuclear arsenals.

They can be neighborly to us because our nukes actually work.

But seriously, it's a two way street. Being neighborly doesn't mean that because I built a shed right next to the fence that now my neighbor gets to **** my sister in law without her permission.

 

[Mongoose]

They can be neighborly to us because our nukes actually work.

But seriously, it's a two way street. Being neighborly doesn't mean that because I built a shed right next to the fence that now my neighbor gets to **** my sister in law without her permission.

Maybe you should find out why your neighbor doesn’t want your bioweapons facilities, I mean “shed” so close to the fence line so bad, that’s all.

 

[fishonjazz]

They can be neighborly to us because our nukes actually work.

But seriously, it's a two way street. Being neighborly doesn't mean that because I built a shed right next to the fence that now my neighbor gets to **** my sister in law without her permission.

Well this is when you neighbor should ask what is in your shed and why it's so close to their property. And by ask I don't mean they should actually call you up and ask, I mean they should just barge into your house, kill your family, and then keep your house for themselves. You know, peacefully.