The Biden Administration and All Things Politics
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fishonjazz
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It's also illegal to attack our Capitol but he got away with it. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Trump could get support from a faction of the military to engage in actions against U.S. citizens. We are on the cusp of losing our democracy and anyone who thinks that's an impossibility is not a student of world history. Trump has engaged in tearing down democracy right in front of our eyes for years and 35% of the U.S. population love it and another 15% are too stupid to recognize what's going on.
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Trump is popular amongst low ASVAB score military members and vets. Officers and higher skill military members generally do not support Trump. Trump is anti-military service member. Only the dumbest vets and active service members don't get this.
True but underestimate Trump at our own peril.
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Yeah, I agree, a lot of what he threatens, well, saying it is one thing. He would have help concentrating power in the Executive, though, if the “Project 2025” braintrust can realize its goals for Trump 2.0. I hope not. And would hate to wake up to Trump and both houses of Congress in his corner.
Conservatives aim to restructure U.S. government and replace it with Trump's vision
The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trump’s first years in office, when the Republican president’s team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance.
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Yeah, I agree, a lot of what he threatens, well, saying it is one thing. He would have help concentrating power in the Executive, though, if the “Project 2025” braintrust can realize its goals for Trump 2.0. I hope not. And would hate to wake up to Trump and both houses of Congress in his corner.
Conservatives aim to restructure U.S. government and replace it with Trump's vision
The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trump’s first years in office, when the Republican president’s team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance.
Most of what he says is red meat for his base. The dog whistles (Peekaboo?! Holy ****. Look that one up.), gaslighting, and Hitler quotes are all signals that he’s on their team. He can’t legally do most of the stuff he says and promises. He’s the best grifter the world has seen since Putin and the GOP has to ride with him until the inevitable explosion. Like falling off a cliff in slow motion.
Wouldn’t it be beautiful to watch Project 2025 fail after 50 years of planning and waiting, all because they hitched their wagon to Trump?
A girl can dream.
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So you're saying the leadership class of the military, the ones who botched the Afghanistan pull-out, the ones fostering a climate of racial animosity in the ranks through adoption of material from authors such as Ibram X. Kendi, the ones who have overseen the total collapse of recruiting, those are the ones who don't like Trump. You're saying the ones who do the fighting and dying are the ones who do like Trump.
The only thing the worries me about all these things Trump is supposedly about to do is that nearly every one of them is projection. Oh noes! Trump is going to use his position of power to weaponize law enforcement against political opponents. He's going to send police raids to their houses. He's going to tie them up in court all over the country. Didn't you hear? He used the word "vermin" which is Hitler-like signalling exposing a serious antisemitic problem in his party. The politicians and left-leaning outlets publishing these breathless Op/Ed pieces ring like the old anti-gay conservatives who later got exposed trying to pick up men in airport bathrooms.
"Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt"
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They are based on Trump saying these things, or documents his advisors produce. The projection is accusing progressives of planning the same tactics when there is no evidence of such.
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There is no evidence law enforcement would conduct a raid on Trump's home, or that he'd be tied up in prosecutions all over the country, or there being an anti-Jewish element in the political left? Uh, okay.
A raid wouldn't have necessary if Trump hadn't tried to keep what didn't belong to him. He's tied up in prosecutions because he's a criminal. There are significant anti-Semitic elements all over the political spectrum.
McConnell has done more to damage the progressive agenda than Trump, but his home has not been raided nor have prosecutions been launched. Speaker Johnson is facing neither. Maybe, just maybe, it's just Trump?
Al-O-Meter
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The other two you mentioned are still in power and have some measure of protection because they are still in elected office. As far as Trump being Trump, remember that Joe Biden also took what didn't belong to him and stored it next to his corvette but there was no FBI raid on his house.
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Lol.
Pence was also not in power, also had documents, and no raid. Pence and Biden turned over everything on the first request, Trump did not. It's just Trump.
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We shouldn’t rely on generals to protect American democracy from its elected civilian leaders. Either voters need to give a damn about their democracy or they can live with the authoritarian consequences. Granted, I think the majority of voters care. Unfortunately, the popular vote doesn’t determine who leads the executive branch. Which is why voters need to overwhelmingly vote for Biden. Don’t even give the EC a chance… or the GOP controlled House… a chance to destroy American democracy.
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Don't give the Electoral College the chance to destroy American democracy? It is really saying something that you represent public education. We have a system that has worked for more than two centuries, and in this most recent election proved exactly how robust it makes us in the face of exactly the types of populist movements it is designed to protect against, and you demand that it be stopped. Unbelievable.
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I would like some sort of response from AL about this one.
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he won’t. Because his escape from defending Trump (and being revealed to looked like a hypocrite… again) is an attempt to debate with me over what the founding fathers intended when they slapped the EC into the process of electing president. He’s not an honest or good faith actor. He just likes getting folks riled up. And if more people ignored him for the obvious contrarian that he is, he wouldn’t get the shot of dopamine anymore from irritating people on here.
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Why? What is it exactly that you think Pence has done, in One Brow's words, "to damage the progressive agenda"? I think he was mostly inert towards the progressive agenda, but still the FBI did conduct a 5 hour search of his residence. The biggest difference is the FBI contacted Pence's lawyers first to inform Pence they were coming, but the FBI never did anything like that to the previous VP immediately after he left office or they would have found boxes of classified documents next to his corvette.
Hide your eyes all you want, but the role our nation's law enforcement agencies are now playing in investigating and prosecuting candidates is unprecedented. It isn't because Trump was some kind of extraordinary threat as both Trump and Biden are amateurs in corruption compared to people like LBJ.