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No one cares about any of those issues except for abortion, but abortion is huge. That one issue is swinging elections. I'm sad because I'm on the other side of that argument but I can't deny the sheer power that one issue has in crushing everyone to the right of center politically.
Funny because I care about all those issues except abortion. I'm never going to have to decide whether to have an abortion or not.
I sure do care about things like climate change though. I like Earth.

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What is the Republican system anyway?
It is an adjective meaning "of, relating to, or of the nature of a republic." It has nothing to do with the Republican party which wasn't founded for almost a century after that quote was made.

the popular vote (which I'm assuming means democracy to you)
The popular vote does not mean democracy. It isn't about voting. Internet polls have voting. Some reality TV shows have voting. Plenty of non-democratic governments have voting including the United States which has three branches of government, one branch (legislative) of which is subject to democracy, and another branch (executive) which is arguably pseudo-democratic. Your observation of the electoral college more often than not, but not always, choosing the same winner does drive the point home that it really doesn't matter if the popular vote is the same or different because in our system the demos (people) do not actually have the kratos (power). There is a superseding structure of power which is what makes our system of government small 'r' republican.

What Hamilton was trying to say was that democracies create the types of monsters you all like to pretend Trump is. Democracies are populist monster factories. In his words: "No popular Government was ever without its Catalines & its Cæsars." If you want that type of narcissistic demagogue who will trample liberties then democracy is the form of government for you.
 
What Hamilton was trying to say was that democracies create the types of monsters you all like to pretend Trump is. Democracies are populist monster factories. In his words: "No popular Government was ever without its Catalines & its Cæsars." If you want that type of narcissistic demagogue who will trample liberties then democracy is the form of government for you.
So you think we are a democracy then. Because whatever we are created trump.

Trump had no experience in politics. No experience in governing. But he became POPULAR.
He was a known monster and continues to be one. Stealing from americans (trump university), stealing from charity (trump foundation). Grab em by the *****. Talks of shooting people (when the looting starts the shooting starts, saying we should execute a general, saying he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters). Cheats on all his wives while they are pregnant. Sleeps with porn stars and pays them off to keep quiet. Sexual assault loss in court. His business cheats (trump organization). Tries to overturn/steal an election. Sits back for hours and watches an attack on our capital while doing nothing. He is a narcissistic sociopath. 91 (current) indictments and he gets more popular. (and thats just a quick rundown off the top of my head for starters. Could go on and on and on) He is a popular monster. And he was elected. lol. Its kinda crazy how wrong you are on this hamilton take. He was talking about a type of person in his quote (which is obvious) not democracy.
 
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What Hamilton was trying to say was that democracies create the types of monsters you all like to pretend Trump is. Democracies are populist monster factories. In his words: "No popular Government was ever without its Catalines & its Cæsars."
And again, if this is true then why didn't he just use the word democracy? That would be super easy to do.
 
Hunter Biden was indicted on nine tax charges in California including three felonies in addition to federal firearms charges in Delaware.

In a fiery response, defense attorney Abbe Lowell accused Weiss of “bowing to Republican pressure" in the case.

“Based on the facts and the law, if Hunter’s last name was anything other than Biden, the charges in Delaware, and now California, would not have been brought," Lowell said in a statement.

The White House declined to comment on Thursday’s indictment, referring questions to the Justice Department or Hunter Biden’s personal representatives.

If this were happening to anyone in trumps family then he would be furiously posting and yelling about the unfairness. MTG would be going nuts.

Dang justice system being weaponized against conservatives/republicans once again.

The indictment comes as congressional Republicans pursue an impeachment inquiry into President Biden, claiming he was engaged in an influence-peddling scheme with his son. The House is expected to vote next week on formally authorizing the inquiry.

Which, according to republicans should be considered election interference.

No evidence has emerged so far to prove that Joe Biden, in his current or previous office, abused his role or accepted bribes.

Witch hunt!!!

Federal law bans gun possession by “habitual drug users,” though the measure is seldom seen as a stand-alone charge and has been called into question by a federal appeals court.

More witch hunting!!!
 
And again, if this is true then why didn't he just use the word democracy? That would be super easy to do.
Because Alexander Hamilton. He could have said "democracy dangerous, yo" but instead we got "those who sit astride the hobby horse of popularity are ever without Catalines and Cæsars". Maybe Hamilton was concerned the general populace didn't know the difference between a republic and a democracy so using words they didn't understand wouldn't help his argument. Hamilton was so fearful of democracy that he wanted the US Senators and US President to be lifetime appointments like our Supreme Court Justices are.

"Hamilton served as one of New York’s delegates to the Constitutional Convention at Philadelphia in 1787, and proposed that senators and the executive serve for life, and that the executive have an absolute veto. Although his proposals were not fully adopted, Hamilton passionately campaigned for the Constitution."

 
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"those who sit astride the hobby horse of popularity
Like trump did (and is still doing)?
Trump is literally what hamilton was describing in that quote
 
Like trump did (and is still doing)?
Trump is literally what hamilton was describing in that quote
You mean the guy who is not in office because of the safeguards provided by the structures the founders put in place a quarter millennia ago? Yes, those structures were put in place for the preservation of liberties against people like Trump. They aren't perfect but they have worked better than any other system in modern history.
 
You mean the guy who is not in office because of the safeguards provided by the structures the founders put in place a quarter millennia ago? Yes, those structures were put in place for the preservation of liberties against people like Trump. They aren't perfect but they have worked better than any other system in modern history.
Did he or did he not get elected? A yes or no answer is all that is needed to answer this question btw.
 
Did he or did he not get elected? A yes or no answer is all that is needed to answer this question btw.
Sure Trump got elected, but so did Hitler. The difference is in the US system, Trump was constrained by two other co-equal branches, and a system responsible for the change of power at the conclusion of his term that Trump couldn't corrupt. Meanwhile in pre-war Germany, Hitler won election and used his ability to play to the crowd to do away with any constraints or system to replace him. In a nutshell, that is the difference between a democracy and a republic. In a democracy, those having popular opinion on their side can do anything. In a republic, even those having popular opinion on their side are still constrained by superseding structures. Democracy isn't about voting. Democracy is about what having popular support will allow you to do.
 
Sure Trump got elected, but so did Hitler. The difference is in the US system, Trump was constrained by two other co-equal branches, and a system responsible for the change of power at the conclusion of his term that Trump couldn't corrupt. Meanwhile in pre-war Germany, Hitler won election and used his ability to play to the crowd to do away with any constraints or system to replace him. In a nutshell, that is the difference between a democracy and a republic. In a democracy, those having popular opinion on their side can do anything. In a republic, even those having popular opinion on their side are still constrained by superseding structures. Democracy isn't about voting. Democracy is about what having popular support will allow you to do.
Democracy is about voting though. I know you like to change definitions of words. When you google "what is the definition of democracy?" two words consistently always appear. The words "vote" and "elect(ed)"

You are just being silly now. Anywho, you think hamilton was talking about democracy and i think he was talking about a type of person. We will just have to agree to disagree. Enjoy your time on your bat **** crazy island.
 
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Democracy is about voting though. I know you like to change definitions of words. When you google "what is the definition of democracy?" two words consistently always appear. The words "vote" and "elect(ed)"

You are just being silly now. Anywho, you think hamilton was talking about democracy and i think he was talking about a type of person. We will just have to agree to disagree. Enjoy your time on your bat **** crazy island.
How do you vote and elect people if debates and elections don't happen? For the sake of democracy we must circumvent democracy.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...tes-from-the-ballot-in-the-name-of-democracy/

Some thoughts from a democrat presidential candidate

View: https://x.com/deanbphillips/status/1730385599339561155?s=20
 
uh- the biden administration and all things politics. Welcome to the board.
I will be ready to discuss something specific when you are ready to specify what you want to discuss. I'm cool if you don't though as well.

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I will be ready to discuss something specific when you are ready to specify what you want to discuss. I'm cool if you don't though as well.

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ok- how do you feel about the Biden administration refusing to have debates and disenfranchising millions of democrats who want to vote for another candidate besides Joe Biden?

How do you vote and elect people if debates and elections don't happen? For the sake of democracy do you think we must circumvent democracy?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...tes-from-the-ballot-in-the-name-of-democracy/

What do you think about Democrat presidential candidate Dean Phillips and what he says here?


View: https://x.com/deanbphillips/status/1730385599339561155?s=20
 
ok- how do you feel about the Biden administration refusing to have debates and disenfranchising millions of democrats who want to vote for another candidate besides Joe Biden?

How do you vote and elect people if debates and elections don't happen? For the sake of democracy do you think we must circumvent democracy?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...tes-from-the-ballot-in-the-name-of-democracy/

What do you think about Democrat presidential candidate Dean Phillips and what he says here?


View: https://x.com/deanbphillips/status/1730385599339561155?s=20
I think we should use democracy way more than we currently do.
I definitely think I should have the opportunity to vote for Phillips in a primary (and I definitely would as I said earlier in this thread). I hope I get that chance.
I also think the country should simply vote on many of the big ticket items like abortion, marijuana legalization, etc. I think we should use popular vote (like we do in local elections) rather than electoral college to choose the president.

So in response, I agree with Phillips that his name should be on a primary ballot as an option along with Biden and others. (I don't care if Biden attends debates or not however. I think we all have already formed our own opinions about him.)

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What are you talking about now?

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I ask MAGA cultists that all the time. They’re so deep into their trump worship, paranoid conspiracies, and media spin zones that it’s like they speak a foreign language completely different than most of America.
 
ok- how do you feel about the Biden administration refusing to have debates and disenfranchising millions of democrats who want to vote for another candidate besides Joe Biden?
It's typical power politics. Last I checked, the Democratic Party was a private entity that made its own rues.

What do you think about Democrat presidential candidate Dean Phillips and what he says here?
That the Florida Democratic Party just saved the state a bunch of money.
 
It's typical power politics. Last I checked, the Democratic Party was a private entity that made its own rues.


That the Florida Democratic Party just saved the state a bunch of money.
Ya its an extremely powerful political party that has lots of constituents that it isn't listening to or allowing them the opportunity to participate in democracy- no biggie.
So in America we are supposed to shut the **** up and let the powerful political parties do whatever they want?
 
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