Do you want our pick to convey this year?

[silesian]

probably their last chance at an early pick.

You think that the ~12 unprotected/ lightly protected picks/ swaps, none of them are going to be "early"?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And their actions (trade deadline moves), tell us, among other things, that they want to play our rookies to see if they’re keepers or assets that could be included in possible trades in the summer. Secretly, but not saying it publicly, the FO is hoping we get to keep our 2024 pick.

I do kind of believe JZ though but yeah. I think they are saying “we want a chance to keep our pick and if we don’t keep it we don’t want it to be on the backs of guys that aren’t likely to be here next year”.

Based on their actions they definitely aren’t consumed with conveying the pick like some weirdos on twitter seem to be.

I think for us to keep the pick it will require FO intervention or 10+ games missed by a guy or two in our top 6.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Although... if Brice gets THT's minutes... that bench group of Brice, JC, Key, Hendricks and ? will give up like 350 pts per 100 possessions. So the combined powers of all our rookies on the floor at the same time may be the fast track to the #9 spot.

 

[homeytennis]

It might be time to sit Lauri, JC, Kessler, Dunn, Colin and Collins with the nasty hamstring tendinitis and let Luka, Yurt7, Tay Henny, Brice and the two ways have at it.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

it is a better draft next year

Just out of curiosity – what is this really based on? It's not that I'm crazy about keeping the pick this year (to say the least), but people repeat that statement like it's some universally accepted truth.

IMO there may be a surprising number of kids ready to contribute right away in this year's draft.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just out of curiosity – what is this really based on? It's not that I'm crazy about keeping the pick this year (to say the least), but people repeat that statement like it's some universally accepted truth.

IMO there may be a surprising number of kids ready to contribute right away in this year's draft.

Normally draft depth is determined as the college season unfolds as guys start to surprise. I think the top of the draft this year compared to next year its obvious that next year is better. This year there was a vacuum in the top 5 and a bunch of dudes that were supposed to fill that vacuum either disappointed or got hurt.

Does this mean that the 10th pick this year has more or less value than the 10th pick next year? IDK. I think the fact that NBA teams are so low on this year's draft actually provides some opportunity. Cost to move up may be cheap whereas sometimes teams refuse to move back.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Wow, that's a pretty resounding yes! With three nice rotation pieces gone, replaced with a rookie hope and a prayer I don't really see it happening. The disconnect between Hardy's will to win and DA's will to bring in draft picks, makes it almost certain that things don't end well this season - out of the playoffs, out of a top ten pick. is my guess.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Does this mean that the 10th pick this year has more or less value than the 10th pick next year? IDK. I think the fact that NBA teams are so low on this year's draft actually provides some opportunity. Cost to move up may be cheap whereas sometimes teams refuse to move back.

Indeed...

Also, my sizzling hot take is that Flagg will have the most underwhelming freshman season by a clear #1 prospect in living memory. I think he's an undisciplined block hunter with bad fundamentals and slowish feet whose HS stats are inflated by taking tons of shots and being physically imposing on that level of basketball.

He'll still go in the top 3 but I wouldn't tank for this guy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Shocked at all the playoff/playin votes.

 

[fishonjazz]

Shocked at all the playoff/playin votes.

You're shocked because so many jazz fans want the jazz to win or so few do?

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[Tanktastic]

I don't know. I would try to avoid trading our own picks... especially if we have other teams picks. I think a top 10 pick has more value than the Minny/Cavs picks in 2025. If our pick conveyed I would not be offering our own 2025 pick at all.

Every team in the league has their own valuation of the picks. Sure, you can "avoid" trading presumably good picks and try to trade only the high 20s picks - but then the trade partner will also value them as such and demand much more. And of course a top10 pick (in whatever year) has more value than 2025 picks every trade partner assumes will be in the high 20s. You can't try to pass of a $10 note as a $20.

 

[sip]

You think that the ~12 unprotected/ lightly protected picks/ swaps, none of them are going to be "early"?

Odds are they are later picks based on the rosters of the cavs and wolves. I know many on this board think that Mitchell won't re-sign with the cavs but I don't believe that for a second. He's got something great brewing with the cavs and he isn't going anywhere.