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Well this game is over

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Ant emasculating KD on this stage is real fun. Just giving it to him.
 
Yes they are less talented than most of the west playoff teams but there is a reason they are built how they are and a reason why they punch above their weight. Surround Fox and Sabonis with shooters and it’s tough to stop.

But why aren’t they more talented? Why are we having this convo? It was with regard to Pascal. Why not go get him? Do you think maybe the Kings considered that fitting another non shooter with their core competency was going to be an issue? So the players they are building around present some limitations on what they want to do.

And yes they put at least one better defender out there in Keon Ellis. I think Keegan improved on that end too but not getting good shooting years from their wings and Fox doing his every other year thing took them from first to 14th offensively. They need more defensive minded players that can also spread the floor. Improving on Barnes/Heurter/ on defense will help or Ellis as a shooter… but that’s hard to do and may not have the defensive impact a rim protector would.

I just think when they made that deal that their upside became limited. Paying Fox and Sabonis as your max guys is going to make the rest of the build out challenging if you want to be a conference finals team. They may win a playoff series with this group but that’s the ceiling imo. Breaking through that means they hit a home run somewhere with limited swings.

Why is any team not more talented? lol. What kind of question is that.

Sabonis stops them from getting another non shooter....ok. Sabonis is providing an immense amount of value as a non shooter. The guys around Fox and Sabonis aren't exactly the cream of the crop, and yet that group was still able to produce an elite offense in large part because Sabonis is so good. Even when the other guys were playing better, it would be hard to look at that team and say...."wow that's a surefire playoff team". And don't act like playing Keon Ellis was some kind of sacrifice they had to make. He's took the minutes of Terrance Davis, who isn't an NBA player, and Davion Mitchell who sucks. Keon has played great and would fit in any team's rotation.

This team has no business being a playoff team in the first place, they get way more out of their talent then other teams. Putting Sabonis with a rim protector who can shoot isn't exactly the secret either. We literally saw that in IND. We can agree to disagree, but as far as reaching their goals/avoid disappointment (which IMO is just to be a consistent playoff team).....Sabonis being hard to fit around is clearly not the issue in my eyes.
 
Embiid going off right now

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That embiid injury screwed the knicks. No way would they be playing the sixers if embiid doesnt get hurt in the regular season.

I figured the sixers would win this series once I saw the matchup
 
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