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Red said:
I follow Ruth Ben-Ghiat, but other prominent thinkers have come to a similar conclusion.
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That does nothing to support what you are claiming. When I showed actual data to back what I was saying about Christian Nationalism in current day America, you had no counter evidence at all. None. Your entire response was about you and me. You are this. You studied. You are blah-blah. I'm stupid and hate learning. How dare someone like me question someone like you. Defending yourself is NOT defending your idea. Attacking me is not attacking the concept I can show with all available data is true. In that same vein, if you start with the prominence, credentials, or fame of someone saying a thing then your argument is crap.

Nearly your entire post is nothing but 'expert sees similarity'. There is no data, no hard evidence to back anything. With your allegation of Project2025 being baked with Christian Nationalism, you didn't even do that. Point me to the policy document in Project2025 that intends to overthrow America's constitution to create a Christian theocracy. You can't because it doesn't exist. I'm suspecting you found experts who wrote pieces where they took sentences removed from context and interpreted them to show the secret meaning. I stand by my opinion of those pushing the threat of Christian Nationalism in 2024 America are on par with Bigfoot hunters. They are a solid step below UFO hunters.

As for overthrowing the government or preventing the peaceful transfer of power, show me actual evidence of Trump commanding an effort to take out his political rivals by force of arms. Again, there isn't any because it didn't happen. There were court cases filed and there was clear negligence shown before and during a riot, but there was no plot to imprison or kill his opponents as happens with overthrowing government or preventing peaceful transfers of power.

Red said:
I’ll add to my reply by suggesting that the days, weeks, perhaps months, following 11/5/24 will likely put the lie to that claim. Regardless of who wins. It’s quite likely it will be one of the most tumultuous post election periods in our entire history.
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I don't see any possibility of the 2024 post election period challenging the 1860 post election period. You are correct in that we will get to see very soon if your concerns have been sage warnings or the rantings of someone who bought in to misguided nonsense he found on the internet.
 
apnews.com

The FBI is investigating suspicious packages sent to election officials in more than 15 states

The FBI and U.S. Postal Service are investigating suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials.
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The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office said a package containing white powder and with the sender listed as “U.S. Traitor Elimination Army” was intercepted at a mail facility.

The FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service on Tuesday were investigating the origin of suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials in more than 15 states, but there were no immediate reports of injuries or that any of the packages contained hazardous material.

The latest packages were sent to elections officials in Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Missouri, New York and Rhode Island. Mississippi authorities reported a package was delivered there Monday, and the Connecticut Secretary of State’s office said the FBI alerted it of a package that was intercepted.

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fishonjazz said:
apnews.com

The FBI is investigating suspicious packages sent to election officials in more than 15 states

The FBI and U.S. Postal Service are investigating suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials.
apnews.com apnews.com

The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office said a package containing white powder and with the sender listed as “U.S. Traitor Elimination Army” was intercepted at a mail facility.

The FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service on Tuesday were investigating the origin of suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials in more than 15 states, but there were no immediate reports of injuries or that any of the packages contained hazardous material.

The latest packages were sent to elections officials in Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Missouri, New York and Rhode Island. Mississippi authorities reported a package was delivered there Monday, and the Connecticut Secretary of State’s office said the FBI alerted it of a package that was intercepted.

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Did it say who exactly they were sending them to? Like was there a name, or just for the organization?
 
fishonjazz said:
apnews.com

The FBI is investigating suspicious packages sent to election officials in more than 15 states

The FBI and U.S. Postal Service are investigating suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials.
apnews.com apnews.com

The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office said a package containing white powder and with the sender listed as “U.S. Traitor Elimination Army” was intercepted at a mail facility.

The FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service on Tuesday were investigating the origin of suspicious packages that have been sent to or received by elections officials in more than 15 states, but there were no immediate reports of injuries or that any of the packages contained hazardous material.

The latest packages were sent to elections officials in Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Missouri, New York and Rhode Island. Mississippi authorities reported a package was delivered there Monday, and the Connecticut Secretary of State’s office said the FBI alerted it of a package that was intercepted.

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The first salvos of the coming civil war.
 
Bucknutz said:
I know people are on here had mixed feelings on the tariff issues, loved the fee crackdown from the Biden administration. What do you guys feel about this:


View: https://x.com/behizytweets/status/1836565850687406158?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
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I can't think of anything that would encourage Americans to take on more debt. Especially if it's temporary this could be devastating to lower income individuals. Americans are notoriously bad at savings even when provided a surplus so I see this reducing monthly payments temporarily and encouraging people, especially lower income people, to take on more debt. That would be my biggest concern. I also can't see what mechanism makes this work. Executive order? If they want to do something like this it needs to be legislation, and I doubt this passes through the legislative branch with lobbying pressure. Again, promises promises.

So what about Biden's policies directly cause the rates to rise anyway? Good tactic though, blame Biden for something the president historically has very little impact on, propose magical "snap my fingers" solution, rinse, repeat.

I think a better approach would be to enact legislation to balance out the corporate tax rate against wages to put pressure on companies to increase real wages which would put more money in the pockets of lower income households in the long term. Penalizing corporate stock buy-backs and reward wage increases instead is one mechanism that could be used. Microsoft recently laid off several hundred workers, citing economic pressure, then turned around and enacted a 50 billion stock buy back. It's ludicrous how big corporations are ****ing over workers like this to maintain the historically high wage gaps and enrich shareholders. That's the first place to start, honestly.
 
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Bucknutz said:
I know people are on here had mixed feelings on the tariff issues, loved the fee crackdown from the Biden administration. What do you guys feel about this:


View: https://x.com/behizytweets/status/1836565850687406158?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
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That's a great idea. I remember getting my first credit card when I was 18. Maxed it out quickly (only $500 dollar limit). Took like 7 years to pay it off. My interest rate was 25%!
That is insane.

The credit card industry will fight like hell though and probably win. Trump loves money. They simply need to make it better financially for trump himself and he won't try to make this happen.



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fishonjazz said:
That's a great idea. I remember getting my first credit card when I was 18. Maxed it out quickly (only $500 dollar limit). Took like 7 years to pay it off. My interest rate was 25%!
That is insane.

The credit card industry will fight like hell though and probably win. Trump loves money. They simply need to make it better financially for trump himself and he won't try to make this happen.



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And the lion will lay with the lamb, and swords will be melted down and turned into plowshares.... What a festering heap of **** that is. Not in a million years will that happen.
 
Red said:

This is a short and succinct description of exactly what is happening in our country in its present moment.
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It is a person in front of a camera repeating what you already believe. No politician has used biased statistics before in their messaging. Trump is an authoritarian. No politician has used negative messaging in their campaigns before. Trump is an authoritarian. It might as well have had a spiraling background or someone swinging a pocket watch like a pendulum in front of the camera.

We have four years of Trump's leadership to see what kind of leader Trump is. Show me in terms of real data that Trump is more authoritarian than his contemporaries. Among the last eight US Presidents, here are the number of executive orders in their first week:

  • President Joe Biden: 22 executive orders in first week
  • President Donald Trump: 4 executive orders in first week
  • President Barack Obama: 5 executive orders in first week
  • President George W. Bush: 0 executive orders in first week
  • President Bill Clinton: 2 executive orders in first week
  • President George Bush Sr: 1 executive order in first week
  • President Ronald Reagan: 0 executive orders in first week
  • President Jimmy Carter: 1 executive order in first week

Trump was constantly stopped by injunctions and rulings of the court. That includes the rulings that made conclusive his losing the 2020 election which he abided by, and on January 20th he peacefully left office. By contrast, Joe Biden had the highest court in the land decide against him and he boasted to crowds that he didn't need to obey those rulings and the courts couldn't stop him. Now Kamala Harris is vowing to impose ethics rules and overhaul the courts. Kamala Harris is running to be the head of the Executive Branch and one of her campaign promises is to conquer and make subservient a coequal branch of government to reduce the pesky checks and balances on presidential power.
 
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