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Bucknutz said:
Here is an interesting Pro-Tarriff with also the negatives video of Trump proposals. Does anyone have a good video of an Anti-Tarriff view? Actual info on the policy not the candidate. I just want to see a basic overview and haven’t been able to find one that talks policy.


View: https://x.com/profstonge/status/1852327232032702862?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
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Economically speaking, an economy that uses tariffs is less efficient than either being fully open or fully closed to global trade. Going from either open or closed to a tariff-heavy system will cause an economic downturn. This tariff inefficiency is termed “deadweight loss”.



The revenue to the government is far less, as your video points out, and to compensate the economist in your video proposes massive cuts to the government. That will indeed spur growth, but it would spur even more growth to do those same cuts without installing the inefficient tariffs. That is effectively what we did at the end of WWII when we had a deficit of 120% of GDP. We laid off 80% of the federal workforce and had the doors wide open to global trade.

The tariff is also regressive, meaning the poor pay a larger share of their money to the government than do the rich.
 
Mongoose said:
fraud... this is a disgrace. Warmongers send them off to die and silence them. This is so corrupt.
Democrats want to allow illegals to vote but not our soldiers?


View: https://x.com/matjendav4/status/1852987416153366759
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This is so dirty, and it should be condemned by everyone! Every person who values democracy or even the United States should be enraged by the military stripping the voting rights from active service military members.
 
Sardines said:
I'd assume she's a conservative Republican. Can't vote for a democrat because Democrat = evil, so picks the actually evil option because Republican = not evil for her. What is independent about her POV?
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That she doesn’t like either candidate but voted for one. This is my point, does the left believe in independents? Or only independents that vote democrat? Can you be independent and vote for Trump?
 
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Bucknutz said:
That she doesn’t like either candidate but voted for one. This is my point, does the left believe in independents? Or only independents that vote democrat? Can you be independent and vote for Trump?
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You sure can. At this point a lot of it depends on the "why". So where was Kamala more evil than Trump to tilt the scales? As someone who sees the unmitigated evil of Trump I of course have a hard time seeing how anything Harris is proposing is worse than being a dictator on day 1 or locking up political rivals or shooting the media or attacking the capital or being a convicted felon or raping women or raising taxes on the middle class while reducing taxes on billionaires, and the list goes on. And please don't hide behind "he doesn't mean it" or "it's hyperbole", because so far all along he's tried to do what he said he'd do. It's time for conservatives supporting Trump to own up to his ACTUAL ****ING WORDS and stop making excuses.

So what does she think makes Harris more evil than Trump, other than "well all Democrats are more evil than Republicans" because that's pretty much how it reads. And if that's the argument then yeah, that's chickenshyt cowardice. Sorry but it just is.

But this is what all "independents" and "swing voters" have to come to terms with, what are they actually willing to support and fight for. And if Trump acts on his words if he gets elected, you know what he ACTUALLY ****ING SAID, then they will carry equally the responsibility and guilt for any harm done.

And the same applies to Harris supporters. Her supporters carry responsibility and guilt for any harm she does by her policies. But from what we can see now, and from what has been presented by research centers, and scientific organizations, and economic organizations, the possible damage done by Harris is likely to be far far less than the potential damage the Trump presidency can cause. So yep I voted for harris, and I'll carry the brunt of responsibility for the harm she does. Even though she was far from my first choice, because in our ****ed up system it's the only choice we get. As long as those who vote for Trump will carry the brunt of responsibility for the harm he does. If they can even recognize damage done to minorities or the middle and lower classes as "harm". Sure seems a lot of them would be just happy as clams to have everyone they don't like, as in aren't rich or white or straight or Christian, meet the final solution Trump seems to get off on.
 
LogGrad98 said:
You sure can. At this point a lot of it depends on the "why". So where was Kamala more evil than Trump to tilt the scales? As someone who sees the unmitigated evil of Trump I of course have a hard time seeing how anything Harris is proposing is worse than being a dictator on day 1 or locking up political rivals or shooting the media or attacking the capital or being a convicted felon or raping women or raising taxes on the middle class while reducing taxes on billionaires, and the list goes on. And please don't hide behind "he doesn't mean it" or "it's hyperbole", because so far all along he's tried to do what he said he'd do. It's time for conservatives supporting Trump to own up to his ACTUAL ****ING WORDS and stop making excuses.

So what does she think makes Harris more evil than Trump, other than "well all Democrats are more evil than Republicans" because that's pretty much how it reads. And if that's the argument then yeah, that's chickenshyt cowardice. Sorry but it just is.

But this is what all "independents" and "swing voters" have to come to terms with, what are they actually willing to support and fight for. And if Trump acts on his words if he gets elected, you know what he ACTUALLY ****ING SAID, then they will carry equally the responsibility and guilt for any harm done.

And the same applies to Harris supporters. Her supporters carry responsibility and guilt for any harm she does by her policies. But from what we can see now, and from what has been presented by research centers, and scientific organizations, and economic organizations, the possible damage done by Harris is likely to be far far less than the potential damage the Trump presidency can cause. So yep I voted for harris, and I'll carry the brunt of responsibility for the harm she does. Even though she was far from my first choice, because in our ****ed up system it's the only choice we get. As long as those who vote for Trump will carry the brunt of responsibility for the harm he does. If they can even recognize damage done to minorities or the middle and lower classes as "harm". Sure seems a lot of them would be just happy as clams to have everyone they don't like, as in aren't rich or white or straight or Christian, meet the final solution Trump seems to get off on.
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I wonder why you wouldn't just take 2 minutes to listed to the clip and find out? Are you that afraid that you cant leave your echochamber for 2 minutes to listen to an independent voter? She mentions free speech, the threat of WW3, nuclear war, and bodily autonomy as a few reasons why she feel this way. All of those are historically democrat stances btw.
 
Any links to Kamala Harris saying she wants to nuke someone? Any links to Harris saying she wants WW3? Any links to Harris saying she wants to remove the first amendment? Any links to Kamala Harris saying whatever it is that makes conservatives have fear about her in regards to bodily autonomy?

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fishonjazz said:
Any links to Kamala Harris saying she wants to nuke someone? Any links to Harris saying she wants WW3? Any links to Harris saying she wants to remove the first amendment? Any links to Kamala Harris saying whatever it is that makes conservatives have fear about her in regards to bodily autonomy?

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l already presented you clips of her for censorship and mandatory buy back… 1st and 2nd.

This lesbian celebrity also doesn’t have issues with Trump and his hatred of women and the LGBTQ community.

Is she MAGA or an independent?
 
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Bucknutz said:
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l already presented you clips of her for censorship and mandatory buy back… 1st and 2nd.

This lesbian celebrity also doesn’t have issues with Trump and his hatred of women and the LGBTQ community.

Is she MAGA or an independent?
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Ya I'm gonna need a link to her saying that she wants to revoke the first and second amendments. Only a video of her saying those exact words will do.
I will wait.

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Bucknutz said:
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l already presented you clips of her for censorship and mandatory buy back… 1st and 2nd.

This lesbian celebrity also doesn’t have issues with Trump and his hatred of women and the LGBTQ community.

Is she MAGA or an independent?
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Frankly you are really only independent until you throw your actual vote in with a specific candidate. Then you have punched your ticket and are along for the ride. So if she has cast her vote for Trump, then she has joined the maga crowd. It's like Schrödinger's vote. You are both maga and not until the vote is cast. Then you're either riding the Titanic or some other ship. Once you board, your suffer that fate, and that means you are part of that group. Problem here is once the decision is made and one of them is president, we all get forced onto that boat whether we like it or not. But at least some of us can say we didn't choose it.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I'm gonna need a link to her saying that she wants to revoke the first and second amendments. Only a video of her saying those exact words will do.
I will wait.

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Her saying we need to regulate speech and mandatory gun buybacks isn’t enough for you that’s fine. If this is your new standard, I will be happy to use it on all your posts.
 
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