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Following Potential 2025 Draftees
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Essengue worked out for the Raptors
Coach Ellis
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He seems like a very Raptor-ish pick tbh.
Based on that he’s 8th in DX mock.
Worked out? Like in NY?
I think he's a strong candidate to go to Charlotte at 4 if Edgecombe goes at 3. I wouldn't read too much into these mocks.
I'm watching Fears tape. I like him. I just have a really hard time passing on Ace for him.
I don’t think you can.
These highlights showcase Fears' feel and timing as a distributor. He has a knack for letting plays unfold and delivering the ball at the right moment. For example, he lets defenders wander out of position or lean off-balance before he completes a play.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOcdNUQz5I
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOcdNUQz5I
Roy_McAvoy
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He also has a 5” shorter wingspan, a smaller vertical, and shot 12% worse from the 3 than Tre.
It's just hard as a smaller player. You have to fly around the court like an electron. You have to juke and jive just to advance the ball. Meanwhile bigger players can just walk the ball right down the lane like they own the joint. Just look at how much energy guys like Curry and Brunson have to expend night in, night out.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK7NLVqiiOI
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK7NLVqiiOI
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Another size comp for Fears: Jared Butler, though Fears is +1.25" longer in wingspan. Another, as we've mentioned, is Isaiah Collier, though Collier is stockier.
This is very weird. Is this real?
RandyForRubio
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Somehow, yes it is.
The Jazz Wonderbra
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Fears Weaknesses on the video included:
Poor ast/tov and poor decision making...
Low FG% in particularly from 3
Finishing... which is just dumb since his best skill is getting from A to B on the court but that doesn't matter if you cant finish...
Defensive liability that can only guard 1 position which doesn't translate to the playoffs...
Combine all of that and it is just a no go for me.
High Ceiling is nice but it is a very low floor. He comps like Monta Ellis...
If we draft Fears tomorrow and dont get a very very solid asset with him, I am going to be peeeeeyisssed. If we get Fears with the 21st pick I am ok with that because he is really young and there is consensus upside even if I dont see it yet.
The Jazz Wonderbra
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Ace, Vj, or Tre for me. If we trade down an unprotected 2026 pick is a must. I am starting to crush on Ace. I won't get fired and I think he is the consensus top 3 basketball player. Don't complicate it folks.
I'm a little miffed at this "we're talking our selves out of/into [player x]" narrative that seems to be going around.
It seems to be based on the unstated (or sometimes stated) assumption that we already know who the best draft prospects are, and that it's just a matter of making sure we don't screw it up. And I think this sense of who the best draft prospect are, at least for some, is based on being hit over the head for months by media draft analysts about who has superstar upside.
So it feels like there's movement (and maybe foolish movement) in the days leading up to the draft because what we seem to be seeing about team valuation of draftees doesn't entirely match the one we've been clinging onto for months.
I sure hope that the starting point for the Jazz has not been this general sense of draftee value based on months of media analysis. I hope they aren't working off a baseline of player rankings that were established in November. I hope their process isn't dominated by discussion of "rising" or "falling" prospects. Rather, I hope that they've emphasized the data gathering for as long as possible and held off until somewhat closer to the end their actual ranking process.
It seems to be based on the unstated (or sometimes stated) assumption that we already know who the best draft prospects are, and that it's just a matter of making sure we don't screw it up. And I think this sense of who the best draft prospect are, at least for some, is based on being hit over the head for months by media draft analysts about who has superstar upside.
So it feels like there's movement (and maybe foolish movement) in the days leading up to the draft because what we seem to be seeing about team valuation of draftees doesn't entirely match the one we've been clinging onto for months.
I sure hope that the starting point for the Jazz has not been this general sense of draftee value based on months of media analysis. I hope they aren't working off a baseline of player rankings that were established in November. I hope their process isn't dominated by discussion of "rising" or "falling" prospects. Rather, I hope that they've emphasized the data gathering for as long as possible and held off until somewhat closer to the end their actual ranking process.