Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If blazers is buying out Ayton to clear minutes for their young bigs, absolutely zero excuse for the Ainges to not buy out Sexton. Kinda reminds me of that 2020 draft night fiasco shortly before we fired DL's ***(we traded 23 for Knicks's 27 and 38, then Knicks immediately fliped that same 23rd pick for Wolves 25 and 33, in case anyone needs a reminder)

Swxton wouldn't accept a buyout. Not that I know, but that's my read. Players don't like taking buyouts. It leaves a bad stigma. Sexton would be a free agent in a bad free agent market and might have to take a minimum one year deal
Obviously the money itself wouldn't matter due to the buyout, but it creates a stigma when you have to be paid not to play for a team and are on a minimum deal.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

If you're a playoff team and you want an instant heater off the bench, JC has got to be the perfect fit.

Playoff teams disagree.

 

[Rubashov]

Playoff teams disagree.

 

[hgb]

Swxton wouldn't accept a buyout. Not that I know, but that's my read. Players don't like taking buyouts. It leaves a bad stigma. Sexton would be a free agent in a bad free agent market and might have to take a minimum one year deal
Obviously the money itself wouldn't matter due to the buyout, but it creates a stigma when you have to be paid not to play for a team and are on a minimum deal.

Also in that case, next summer no team would have Bird rights for him.

 

[George W]

I can see where people think it’s a dumb trade. What I don’t understand, is why anybody thinks it’s a big deal. At the end of the day, this deal doesn’t matter at all.

Exactly. We lost a trade of minimal significance, and it means that our young guards have breathing room.

Maybe Sexton will explode in Charlotte/weak eastern conference, and he'll be traded at the deadline for a FRP (worst possible outcome). Who cares.
We've had him for two years and it was always clear that his presence didn't really benefit the team in the long-term.

I'm just so happy we finally traded him (and did him right imo, which he deserves) instead of waiting for the most net-positive trade. Now we just need to fire Jordan Clarkson the **** outta here too.

- George

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Maybe Collin wanted to go to Charlotte and AA did him a solid?

 

[CVJ]

Also lest not forget Nurk is a huge negative for team chemistry. The guy has a history of causing issues in the locker room. Going from his Denver years beefing with Jokic

A Bosniak beefing with a Serb? Say it ain't so.

 

[The Midnight]

Having Sexton the past 2 years has been like when you broke up with your ex but she couldn't get into her new place until next month - so she had to just hang around your condo.

You give her the bed and sleep on the couch. You can’t move on and date other girls.

Just too awkward.

You almost wanna pay for her to just LEAVE.

That’s the case here imo.

 

[sip]

My big issue is that we constantly wait too long to move players and their value has regressed. We should be shopping a guy like Sexton during the regular seasson when they are rolling. For Sexton that was 2 years ago when he was scorching hot and we clearly weren't in win now mode. For Lauri last offseason was the time but as usual we screw it up and now he has a fraction of that value.

 

[The Midnight]

My big issue is that we constantly wait too long to move players and their value has regressed. We should be shopping guys during the regular when they are rolling rather than the offseason. For Sexton that was 2 years ago when he was scorching hot and we clearly weren't in win now mode.

Blame that on AD trying to find the best deal or no deal.

I bet GMs around the League are calling his bluffs now.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

My big issue is that we constantly wait too long to move players and their value has regressed. We should be shopping guys during the regular when they are rolling rather than the offseason. For Sexton that was 2 years ago when he was scorching hot and we clearly weren't in win now mode.

I keep hearing this argument, but would very much like to hear the offers we turned down for him and Collins.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I keep hearing this argument, but would very much like to hear the offers we turned down for him and Collins.

Yeah. For some reason people absolutely refuse to believe that these guys had/have no market. Go figure.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Maybe Collin wanted to go to Charlotte and AA did him a solid?

I'm sure. What veteran wouldn't want to go to one of the true dumpster fires of the league to play off the bench?

Most likely Charlotte was the only available landing spot for Sexton and his time here was over anyway. No choice.

 

[HermanG]

Maybe Collin wanted to go to Charlotte and AA did him a solid?

I think this trade is all about minutes, touches and opening up a rotation spot. Benching Sexton was not an option based on how he has performed, but on the other hand you dont want him eating almost 30 mpg when he obviously isnt building up any trade value and probably isnt a piece for the next contending iteration.

The fact that he had NO trade markets and it eventually came down to this also tells that fan perception about Sexton is much higher than general GM perception.

 

[HermanG]

Swxton wouldn't accept a buyout. Not that I know, but that's my read. Players don't like taking buyouts. It leaves a bad stigma. Sexton would be a free agent in a bad free agent market and might have to take a minimum one year deal
Obviously the money itself wouldn't matter due to the buyout, but it creates a stigma when you have to be paid not to play for a team and are on a minimum deal.

I think this is a good observation, which also explains the missing piece that didnt make sense (the negative value of the deal).

It should be 100% obvious the FO wanted to dump him. That deal was so clearly a dump and Charlotte probably did not want him but they didnt want Nurkic either. We were the initiators thats why we gave them the pick.

 

[HermanG]

Nurkic eats almost 0 minutes and 0 touches from Ace, WCJ or any of our other young guys. He is comfortably worse than Kessler, so there is no argument that he should ever get minutes over Walker.

 

[zags422]

Nurkic eats almost 0 minutes and 0 touches from Ace, WCJ or any of our other young guys. He is comfortably worse than Kessler, so there is no argument that he should ever get minutes over Walker.

But can if we need to rest…Kessler for a game here or there

 

[fishonjazz]

My favorite line from a Hornets fans thread went something like this - We got a 1st round pick from Phoenix to take Nurkic off their hands and we got a 2nd round pick to take a better player from Utah and send them Nurkic. LMFAO!!

That's how it's done

 

[fishonjazz]

Like if we wanted to tank you can just waive him and keep the pick. Scrap heap guy will be worse than Nurk. Just seems like we are trying to make it look good for the league or something. Like a second rounder in value isn’t the end of the world obviously but now have to watch Nurk? Not as bad as Rudy Gay but still feels like a punishment.

This

 

[fishonjazz]

I find your lack of faith intriguing... I too believe it to be a strange move



Settle down its not like they've traded your lover AB again.

They never traded AB iirc