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2025 Free Agency Thread

I’m shocked that Collin’s doesn’t have substantial value to the Lakers especially as an expiring. They are desperate for size. I know Collins doesn’t play that big, but he seems like a good option rotating with LeBron, Vanderbilt, etc.

You’re gonna tell me that the Lakers wouldn’t be over the moon for a Vincent, Kleber and 2nds for Collins?
 
KqWIN said:
With the way things are going, we'll end up giving up the pick for Rozier.



Wish we had AA to begin with.
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Just work a buyout for John while teams still have BAE money left to spend. Save 4-5M.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Just work a buyout for John while teams still have BAE money left to spend. Save 4-5M.
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Maybe we can make in a S&T with IND and MIL to send him to IND or take Kleber + Vincent to save some cash. Buyout/waive is totally fine with me. My least favorite option is keeping him. Don't want him playing instead of Flip/Ace/Hendricks and it makes me sick to force him to be benched.
 
KqWIN said:
Ainge hung onto those role players like they were the most precious assets one could have. And he also added winning players during that time for no reason. It's easy to say that now, it was easy to say that then.
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As I said, it certainly seemed like he didn't want to pick a lane at the 22-23 trade dealine... but you can't blame Ainge for what happened in the first half of that season. That roster was built to lose, but it started winning. It happens. You can't suddenly pump the brakes in December when all eyes are on your overachieving team and the fans love it.

23-24 is another story. That was the true disaster season, and it's 100% on Ainge.
 
KqWIN said:
Maybe we can make in a S&T with IND and MIL to send him to IND or take Kleber + Vincent to save some cash. Buyout/waive is totally fine with me. My least favorite option is keeping him. Don't want him playing instead of Flip/Ace/Hendricks and it makes me sick to force him to be benched.
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Loop in the Kings JV deal and take Saric... send Derozan to Miami, Collins to Sacramento, Rozier and Saric to Utah. Both teams send a second rounder to Utah. Kings clear some guards and money to bring in Russ.

Obviously I would love to get Carter and now he is like the 4th string pg... but sounds like no one likes our ****.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yikes
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Us telling teams "we are good giving up useful players and attaching picks to them, just to get them off the team" probably is not great for the potential value of players like Collins. My guess is... if we trade him, we will trade him for another hugely disappointing return(probably will have to attach another pick or two again)... if not- we keep him for the time being.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
As I said, it certainly seemed like he didn't want to pick a lane at the 22-23 trade dealine... but you can't blame Ainge for what happened in the first half of that season. That roster was built to lose, but it started winning. It happens. You can't suddenly pump the brakes in December when all eyes are on your overachieving team and the fans love it.

23-24 is another story. That was the true disaster season, and it's 100% on Ainge.
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That roster was not built to lose. It had several veteran players on it and very few young players. Depth and veterans is what wins games during the regular season. It's almost impossible to be a tanky team when you're 10+ deep and have very few young players in the rotation. And he literally prevented the a trade that would have made the 22/23 season more tanky to make a worse trade later on.
 
Hendricks and Markkanen are way too big and probably slow to play SF these days so you're stuck dividing minutes between

PFs: Markkanen, Filipowski, Hendricks, Collins
Cs: Kessler, Nurkic

You're trying to build up Markkanen's trade value to move him and Collins wants to play big minutes to get another contract in the NBA. You can play Markkanen and Hendricks out of position at SF, but they would probably not be very good while also taking a lot of minutes away from Ace.

If Cody Williams was even slightly good, then you would worry about where Cody would get minutes, but well....
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Can you tank with Lauri, Collins, Kessler, Nurk, Flip and Collier, all playing real minutes?
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Who is your point guard? If it is Collier or Carter, yes tanking will be pretty easy. Flip is fun, but he is also a defensive liability currently. We would have very little depth that can play at NBA average.
 
It will be a few months before Hendricks can play heavy minutes and Bailey likely gets Sexton's minutes and Carter gets Clarkson's minutes, both of whom will be way worse as rookies. I actually like Collins and if we have the option of keeping him after next year, I wouldn't mind it.
 
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