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Wemby looks like the best player in the league already and it's not particularly close.
Jokic averaging a quiet triple double, and leading the league in both boards and dimes will have something to say about it. But I guess with him, historic seasons have just become ho-hum. Too bad really. But yeah this year watching Wemby and Jokic duke it out will be very entertaining.
 
Jokic averaging a quiet triple double, and leading the league in both boards and dimes will have something to say about it. But I guess with him, historic seasons have just become ho-hum. Too bad really. But yeah this year watching Wemby and Jokic duke it out will be very entertaining.
As for right now I take Wemby. For one, Jokic isn't leading the league in boards. He is averaging 12.7 and wemby is averaging 13.8. Points its jokic at 20 vs wemby at 31. Assists is jokic 11.7 and wemby is 2.8. Blocks is jokic 0.7 vs wemby at 4.8. Wemby is quite a bit more efficient with a 63% eFG and Jokic at 56% eFG. FWIW Wemby is playing a little more than 4 minutes less per game (due to all the blowout wins) than Jokic which means the per 36 numbers would go in his favor a bit more.
Spurs are undefeated at 4-0 and nuggets are 2-1. Spurs are also number 1 in the league in point differential at +16.5. So he is putting up these arguably better numbers on the best team in the nba (currently).

Now having said all that, I dont think Wemby and the spurs can keep it up and by the end of the season I think its likely that jokic is ahead of wemby in the mvp race. And of course one dude is 30 years old and the other is 22. Its craziness how good Wemby is right now.
 
As for right now I take Wemby. For one, Jokic isn't leading the league in boards. He is averaging 12.7 and wemby is averaging 13.8. Points its jokic at 20 vs wemby at 31. Assists is jokic 11.7 and wemby is 2.8. Blocks is jokic 0.7 vs wemby at 4.8. Wemby is quite a bit more efficient with a 63% eFG and Jokic at 56% eFG. FWIW Wemby is playing a little more than 4 minutes less per game (due to all the blowout wins) than Jokic which means the per 36 numbers would go in his favor a bit more.
Spurs are undefeated at 4-0 and nuggets are 2-1. Spurs are also number 1 in the league in point differential at +16.5. So he is putting up these arguably better numbers on the best team in the nba (currently).

Now having said all that, I dont think Wemby and the spurs can keep it up and by the end of the season I think its likely that jokic is ahead of wemby in the mvp race. And of course one dude is 30 years old and the other is 22. Its craziness how good Wemby is right now.
Jokic is averaging 15.3 boards, just behind Giannis at 16.0. The 12.7 is just his defensive boards where he leads the league. And just under 12 assists per game is nothing to sneeze at from your center. Right now the stats are in Wemby's favor but not overwhelmingly so, as averaging a triple double isn't exactly run-of-the-mill, but that's right now. That's why I said jokic will have something to say about it. You said it wasn't particularly close but it's closer than it appears and might level out as the season progresses. It'll still be very entertaining to watch these 2 this season. Crazy to have 2 such high-level big men operating in the league at the same time. Will make this a fun season for sure.

But it is crazy to see this stuff from a player in his 3rd season. Shades of 3rd year LBJ. Biggest question from Wemby is can he stay healthy. I sure hope so. I want to see what he can really do with a full season.
 
I like the way the season has started. The Jazz have a winning record, the tank is dead, my boy Edgecombe looks like a star (plus ROY) and Flagg looks mid.

Feels good to be right about everything.
You are likely crowned the 2025 October Champion of basketball predictions.

Lets see how your takes hold up, but for now you do deserve some flowers.
 
Random thoughts after waking up this morning and checking box scores:

- I can't believe Sacramento didn't play Devin Carter in the second half. He was very good in the first half and a big reason for them taking the lead.
- I sometimes imagine what this board would sound like if we were fans of another team. For example I can just imagine how upset everyone would be if CJ McCollum and Kris Middleton were playing 2X more than Tre Johnson and Will Riley can't even get minutes. I can just imagine the arguments over whether we are shopping the vets and if that even works, or if the vets are helping development, and how they are ruining the tank lol...
- Kon is shooting 53.3% from 3 on good volume.
- Ware is having a disappointing start to the season compared to his preseason performance. Jaime Jaquez might be back.
- The Clippers only scored 79 points?
- Giannis is 4 games in to the season MVP right now.
 
Random thoughts after waking up this morning and checking box scores:

- I can't believe Sacramento didn't play Devin Carter in the second half. He was very good in the first half and a big reason for them taking the lead.
- I sometimes imagine what this board would sound like if we were fans of another team. For example I can just imagine how upset everyone would be if CJ McCollum and Kris Middleton were playing 2X more than Tre Johnson and Will Riley can't even get minutes. I can just imagine the arguments over whether we are shopping the vets and if that even works, or if the vets are helping development, and how they are ruining the tank lol...
- Kon is shooting 53.3% from 3 on good volume.
- Ware is having a disappointing start to the season compared to his preseason performance. Jaime Jaquez might be back.
- The Clippers only scored 79 points?
- Giannis is 4 games in to the season MVP right now.
I'm gonna have to run Giannis numbers vs wembys for that last one.
I do know that the bucks have a loss and the spurs don't and the spurs have the best point differential in the NBA though.

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I'm gonna have to run Giannis numbers vs wembys for that last one.
I do know that the bucks have a loss and the spurs don't and the spurs have the best point differential in the NBA though.

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The Spurs have played about as easy of a schedule as you can in 4 games. The Bucks just played the Cavs and Knicks. But really what I'm referring to is the fact that Giannis is carrying that team. The Bucks roster is straight trash. The Spurs roster outside Wemby isn't great, but it's still better than the Bucks outside of Giannis.

Also, I'm not seriously handing out a 4 game MVP, I was really just saying that he's carrying his team.
 
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