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HadAnEffectHere said:
Caleb Wilson obviously has elite athleticism and a very good BBIQ, but there just doesn't seem to be much of anything there skill-wise. Kind of has to be the rollman PF on a team with a stretch 5 that doesn't roll to the paint?
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He's playing a role. He has shown flashes of a mid-range jumper. He looks good.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Caleb Wilson obviously has elite athleticism and a very good BBIQ, but there just doesn't seem to be much of anything there skill-wise. Kind of has to be the rollman PF on a team with a stretch 5 that doesn't roll to the paint?
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Oldheads might toss around the Antonio McDyess comp. He's going to need to stretch his range and refine his ball skills in the NBA. In college though, it looks like he can just physically dominate guys and put up 20/12 on any given night. He's showing enough flashes and physical traits that he should be able to adapt pretty well to the NBA if he wants to, but it may take a few years to refine those skills.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Oldheads might toss around the Antonio McDyess comp. He's going to need to stretch his range and refine his ball skills in the NBA. In college though, it looks like he can just physically dominate guys and put up 20/12 on any given night. He's showing enough flashes and physical traits that he should be able to adapt pretty well to the NBA if he wants to, but it may take a few years to refine those skills.
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I mean, McDyess in the modern era would have needed a stretch 5 who didn't roll as well.
 
Guys have never been better at improving as shooters. So long as the shot isn't like busted. I think Wilson will be fine from a shooting standpoint. The functional athleticism and length is pretty amazing.

The one dunk he did a decel, euro-step, and dunked off one foot pretty far from the hoop. He just kinda floats out there. I want to see what he does against real teams but yeah I think you can write his name in pencil in the top 5 right now.
 
I'm not sure about just assuming everyone is going to fine without a jumper, but Wilson moves extremely well and from what I saw he can handle too. He has some perimeter skills, just not 3 point shooting per say.

Also, he just looks like a defensive superstar and that is worth a lot on it's own.
 
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KqWIN said:
I'm not sure about just assuming everyone is going to fine without a jumper, but Wilson moves extremely well and from what I saw he can handle too. He has some perimeter skills, just not 3 point shooting per say.

Also, he just looks like a defensive superstar and that is worth a lot on it's own.
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I'm thinking more of a traditional big man version of Amen Thompson.

But the question is whether you can find a stretch 5 next to him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Guys have never been better at improving as shooters. So long as the shot isn't like busted. I think Wilson will be fine from a shooting standpoint. The functional athleticism and length is pretty amazing.

The one dunk he did a decel, euro-step, and dunked off one foot pretty far from the hoop. He just kinda floats out there. I want to see what he does against real teams but yeah I think you can write his name in pencil in the top 5 right now.
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He has hit several nice looking middies as aell
 
KqWIN said:
Pretty early to do this, but I'm fading Chris Cenac already. Does not look like a top 10 prospect.
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interesting. i'm still in on Cenac. love the size, length and athleticism and the ability to make the three. it is hard to showcase yourself at houston and i sorta have to question any top frosh for going there, but he's looking pretty good early on and had a great game against auburn. harwell really struggling to get shots.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
interesting. i'm still in on Cenac. love the size, length and athleticism and the ability to make the three. it is hard to showcase yourself at houston and i sorta have to question any top frosh for going there, but he's looking pretty good early on and had a great game against auburn. harwell really struggling to get shots.
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Things could change....but he's trending as a C prospect who doesn't get the rim, FT line, pass, or get stocks. Seems to have a nice middy and theoretical 3 point shot, but that's not enough for me. I've only watched highlights, but he doesn't look super athletic and is too much of a finesse player for my liking. Looks like Ayton with even less inside presence.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Guys have never been better at improving as shooters. So long as the shot isn't like busted. I think Wilson will be fine from a shooting standpoint. The functional athleticism and length is pretty amazing.

The one dunk he did a decel, euro-step, and dunked off one foot pretty far from the hoop. He just kinda floats out there. I want to see what he does against real teams but yeah I think you can write his name in pencil in the top 5 right now.
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Ryan Dunn shooting 33% on 6 attempts per 100possessions as a complete non shooter in college is one data point. CMB starting the year off at 50% 3pt shooting is another data point. On the other hand Locke seems to have some data that shows that guys don't improve that much, but I'm kind of ignoring him for now when there are so many obvious examples of guys learning to shoot in the league.

So one interesting thing that I heard the Toronto broadcasters say is that it's easier to take a non shooter and teach him how to shoot 3's then a bad shooter. I guess the idea is that with a non shooter you are starting from scratch vs a bad shooter you are trying to correct stuff that's deeply habitual at that point. I'm not sure how much I buy that, but it's interesting to think about.
 
KqWIN said:
Things could change....but he's trending as a C prospect who doesn't get the rim, FT line, pass, or get stocks. Seems to have a nice middy and theoretical 3 point shot, but that's not enough for me. I've only watched highlights, but he doesn't look super athletic and is too much of a finesse player for my liking. Looks like Ayton with even less inside presence.
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Cashiggy needs to get their act together and get me a Cenac video. I have no opinion currently.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Ryan Dunn shooting 33% on 6 attempts per 100possessions as a complete non shooter in college is one data point. CMB starting the year off at 50% 3pt shooting is another data point. On the other hand Locke seems to have some data that shows that guys don't improve that much, but I'm kind of ignoring him for now when there are so many obvious examples of guys learning to shoot in the league.

So one interesting thing that I heard the Toronto broadcasters say is that it's easier to take a non shooter and teach him how to shoot 3's then a bad shooter. I guess the idea is that with a non shooter you are starting from scratch vs a bad shooter you are trying to correct stuff that's deeply habitual at that point. I'm not sure how much I buy that, but it's interesting to think about.
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Locke sometimes has his things that he never really updates or deviates from. The shooting as a whole seems like it is so much better in the league... but maybe that is just teams playing guys that can shoot. IDK. I would not hesitate to draft a guy like Wilson if the current FT percentage holds up... feel like as a spot up guy you could get him to the high 30s and the rest of the stuff is really tantalizing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Locke sometimes has his things that he never really updates or deviates from. The shooting as a whole seems like it is so much better in the league... but maybe that is just teams playing guys that can shoot. IDK. I would not hesitate to draft a guy like Wilson if the current FT percentage holds up... feel like as a spot up guy you could get him to the high 30s and the rest of the stuff is really tantalizing.
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Thinking about the Jazz, Wilson might be the kind of defender that makes a Lauri/Keyonte starting lineup possible.
 
I haven't done the research myself, but I don't really see a reason to believe why we can suddenly develop shooting better (at the NBA level) than before. I think it's much more likely the case that the guys who can shoot get to play more and also that prospects coming in are better at shooting.

Either way, good shooting is still a much better sign than bad shooting. I don't think Wilson's shooting is bad, but it is still a fair question mark. I'd say that shooting is still a question mark for he and AJ until they show improvement. He's looking like an A+ prospect outside of shooting so far though. Looks like a smaller, but more athletic Evan Mobley.
 
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