Too good to tank?

[SoberasHotRod]

Not sure you can call it shenanigans with Love's age

If I had to guess I would say the rest day was already predetermined.

 

[infection]

I get that you’re being funny, but that all starts with conveying the pick. I am way, way ahead of you.

It actually started with the previous regime’s lack of creativity on back center options, but I feel you.

Had we just signed Udoh we wouldn’t be in this situation.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Not sure you can call it shenanigans with Love's age

He's 37, not 57.

 

[HermanG]

Maybe... detrimental is maybe too strong. I don't see Taylor as super negative and both guys are actually pretty muted. It puts a few extra lbs on the bar but that might be good too.

I don't think its going to hurt their development in any meaningful or long lasting way. Lauri has had to play with some trashy players the last few years and he has managed to improve.

You don't want 48 minutes of clown show... but 15 minutes of less than good... its just fine imo.

Yeah thats probably something you can balance with a bit. I personally feel like we are in the business of separating treasure from trash and discarding trash is worth at least whatever the opportunity cost is for not discarding trash.

I feel a bit hyperbolic about some of the young guys (mainly Kessler, Key and Ace).. and giving them opportunity to succeed feels a step in the right direction. I understand this year is special because we wouldnt do the "frisky play-off push" few years ago and the burden of Favors is still there... but Im not worried about losing 9th or 10th pick as that is NOT the top end talent I want to queue for.

The prospect of landing one of the top guys is the side I struggle with, not the "forfeit to OKC" side.

I'm intereted to know your stance on that. Like is this more about the chance of landing Peterson, Dybantsa, Boozer et al, or are you actually worried that losing the pick has some major impact on our success going forward?

 

[HermanG]

For all the people thinking it’s the end of the world if we convey our pick this year, y’all need to touch grass and get real. There are so many worse things that can happen.

Like when we convey our pick and one of Cleveland or Minnesota wins the lottery.

Always gotta be a few steps ahead.

It gets worse.

Actually that may not be worse. I dont know if there is a precedence for this so not 100% sure how it would work... but swap rights can be traded forward and we can also trade our pick back... so we would actually be able to recover value possibly even in two different ways if that happened.

Although trading OKC the swap and giving them #1 overall may not be better even if they pay us handsomely for it.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah thats probably something you can balance with a bit. I personally feel like we are in the business of separating treasure from trash and discarding trash is worth at least whatever the opportunity cost is for not discarding trash.

I feel a bit hyperbolic about some of the young guys (mainly Kessler, Key and Ace).. and giving them opportunity to succeed feels a step in the right direction. I understand this year is special because we wouldnt do the "frisky play-off push" few years ago and the burden of Favors is still there... but Im not worried about losing 9th or 10th pick as that is NOT the top end talent I want to queue for.

The prospect of landing one of the top guys is the side I struggle with, not the "forfeit to OKC" side.

I'm intereted to know your stance on that. Like is this more about the chance of landing Peterson, Dybantsa, Boozer et al, or are you actually worried that losing the pick has some major impact on our success going forward?

On the other hand, 2 of the three guys you mention being excited about (key and Kessler) are both guys who we would be giving away to OKC (they were drafted later than 8th)
I would rather add another keyonte/Kessler level player to our roster over adding one to OKC roster.

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[outerspacefan]

Too much overthinking.
Just lose games. It's not hard. Winning is hard, losing is not, it is just a decision.
Another half tank domino effect will for sure screw us over for much longer then the firs two...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah thats probably something you can balance with a bit. I personally feel like we are in the business of separating treasure from trash and discarding trash is worth at least whatever the opportunity cost is for not discarding trash.

I feel a bit hyperbolic about some of the young guys (mainly Kessler, Key and Ace).. and giving them opportunity to succeed feels a step in the right direction. I understand this year is special because we wouldnt do the "frisky play-off push" few years ago and the burden of Favors is still there... but Im not worried about losing 9th or 10th pick as that is NOT the top end talent I want to queue for.

The prospect of landing one of the top guys is the side I struggle with, not the "forfeit to OKC" side.

I'm intereted to know your stance on that. Like is this more about the chance of landing Peterson, Dybantsa, Boozer et al, or are you actually worried that losing the pick has some major impact on our success going forward?

Its about both. I would say the all or nothing aspect is maybe slightly more important. Many AS are drafted between 5-8... at very least its a huge trade asset. Its just such a big value prop to lose out on... Landing top 4 is amazingly valuable. Landing 5-8 is meaningfully valuable... losing it all... yeesh.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It actually started with the previous regime’s lack of creativity on back center options, but I feel you.

Had we just signed Udoh we wouldn’t be in this situation.

Whiteside... or a bunch of other dudes... or just signed Favs for 7-8M instead of full MLE and eaten the contract and paid the tax. Like this pick was a cap casualty because Ryan didn't want to pay the tax and we wanted to sign Rudy Gay. There are a lot of different ways we could have cut costs if we had to.... but Ryan could have just paid the bill. Rough.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yeah thats probably something you can balance with a bit. I personally feel like we are in the business of separating treasure from trash and discarding trash is worth at least whatever the opportunity cost is for not discarding trash.

I feel a bit hyperbolic about some of the young guys (mainly Kessler, Key and Ace).. and giving them opportunity to succeed feels a step in the right direction. I understand this year is special because we wouldnt do the "frisky play-off push" few years ago and the burden of Favors is still there... but Im not worried about losing 9th or 10th pick as that is NOT the top end talent I want to queue for.

The prospect of landing one of the top guys is the side I struggle with, not the "forfeit to OKC" side.

I'm intereted to know your stance on that. Like is this more about the chance of landing Peterson, Dybantsa, Boozer et al, or are you actually worried that losing the pick has some major impact on our success going forward?

It’s both. Co-sign everything fish and HH said, but want to add that having the 7th-worst record has higher lottery odds than 10th-worst record (>3x better odds!!!) and, as you know, the lottery is how one gets top-4.