Maybe the Jazz has finally found a new secret ingredient to late season tanking.
Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread
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The Jazz Wonderbra
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Hopefully these arent anything like the Josh Giddey "high school drills"...
Lets not pretend like playing Cody to tank better is a secret. Its probably the most advocated tanking strategy in these boards over the last 2 seasons.
Posters who want to hang the results of the Charlotte game on Cody are just as silly as I am when I post about all of the games where he has one of our highest +/- after going 0/4 from the field. The only difference is I know that I'm being disingenuous, I'm not sure if these other posters are.
Cody was one of the best players
His lack of rebounding was a huge problem that game, but yeah, the rest of his game was not a problem.
OK, so I don't want to start a whole thread about this, but I do think Cody's rebounding is something worth discussing. His rebounding % is currently 4.9% which is second to last on the team (Collier is last). If you compare him to players 6'4" or taller who have played at least 20 games he has the 20th worst rebounding percentage in the NBA. Svi is basically at the same rate, so some of this could be a scheme thing. According to PBP stats we are a 2% worse defensive rebounding team with Cody on the floor and a 5% worse offensive rebounding team with Cody on the floor. Obviously his weight/strength is a huge factor here, but I would think a guy with his length could be a decent rebounder.
I've tried to pay close attention to his rebounding over the last few games and here are some observations, as I think his rebounding problems are varied. He very meekly goes after rebounds. Instead of physically bodying up another player, he almost tries to sneak in for rebounds. He generally has poor positioning. Probably related to his strength, but he picks the places on the floor where he is least likely to get bumped instead of the places where the ball is most likely to land. He almost never tries to box anyone out and if he does it generally isn't very effective as the player is usually able to get through him easily. He generally has poor instincts of when to jump and where to be, this is a skill thing and not a strength related issue. He has poor hands/strength and even when he is in position to get the ball he rarely comes up with it when contested. I don't think the majority of his issues with rebounding are lack of motor as he tries to get rebounds, although he could probably try harder. I think the main issue is his lack of physicality followed by a lack of skill.
So What?:
- Can Cody be a viable low usage player he if doesn't rebound better?
- Does Cody need to rebound if we have guys like Kessler on the floor?
- How much can Cody improve his rebounding?
How much of the team rebounding % w/ Cody on the court is to due with the fact he rarely plays with Nurkic?
Probably quite a bit. We are a 12% better defensive rebounding team and a 4% better offensive rebounding team with Nurkic on the floor and Cody only shares about 20% of his time on the floor with Nurkic.
I think it's fairly obvious from watching the film that Cody is a bad rebounder. What I'm not sure of is how big of a deal it is.
Yeah he's a bad rebounder, but it probably doesn't matter all that much depending on who else is on the court.
I see Hendricks issues rebounding as more pressing as he plays a position that requires a higher rebounding responsibility
Cody Williams defensive rebounding impact is 21st percentile (adjusted plus minus but for defensive rebounding). Honestly better than I expected, but still not great (and as always these numbers are not 100% perfect). This combined with his absent defensive playmaking makes it hard for him to be a positive defender.
I think there's a theoretical upper limit to rebounding and also likely a point where there are diminishing returns, but the Jazz aren't close to that. I'm not sure a situation where "we have enough rebounding" really exists in the NBA.
I think there's a theoretical upper limit to rebounding and also likely a point where there are diminishing returns, but the Jazz aren't close to that. I'm not sure a situation where "we have enough rebounding" really exists in the NBA.