Jazz get two 2nd round pics to help Cleveland clear salary by taking and waiving Lonzo Ball

[framer]

This trade is a good example of why there’s no need for an existential crisis meltdown when the Jazz throw in a 2nd to move Sexton for Nurk.

If we actually keep Nurk as a backup next year, we killed it on that trade.

 

[Flc]

If we actually keep Nurk as a backup next year, we killed it on that trade.

Even this year alone, I think he’s really helped in the development of a bunch of our guys just from his playmaking and screening. He’s also been a key glue guy.

 

[kabenac]

Anyone know what the cash considerations are the Hawks are sending us?

We also traded Koprivica (came in the Kris Dunn trade) to OKC for cash considerations.

 

[nateboz]

All these cash considerations are going to be the payment back to the nba for blatant tanking fees.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Boooo. Giving up Landale, a dirt cheap worker big, is crazy.

As much fun as it's been to watch Nurk's quirky brand of hub offense, I can't see him as a happy back up 5 playing spot minutes on a team that's trying to win.

 

[HermanG]

Sounds like an ideal player to have on the roster for the remainder of this season

Injured isnt optimal. We will be forced to play our better players if we dont have enough tank commanders.

Washed works.

 

[HermanG]

Boooo. Giving up Landale, a dirt cheap worker big, is crazy.

As much fun as it's been to watch Nurk's quirky brand of hub offense, I can't see him as a happy back up 5 playing spot minutes on a team that's trying to win.

Except Nurk actually loves the org and Hardy. He said recently that "great support from the organisation" and "Hardys patience and trust" have made him rediscover joy in basketball. Or something along those lines.

You have a fixation to paint every NBA player as a money grubbing diva who turns unhappy if anything goes wrong. Truth is people are different. Lauri loves being in Utah despite the tanking, and Nurk loves being in Utah despite the tanking. How weird.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Except Nurk actually loves the org and Hardy.

I know what he said, but let's be real – it's easy to be happy when you suddenly get tons of playing time and a fantasy role as an offensive hub who gets millions of touches. But that only happened in the first place because Walker went out.

As I said, Nurk's rejuvenation has been very entertaining to watch and I mostly like his game. But I suspect his love for the organization is conditional, as is usually the case with NBA players.

Nurk has an actual history of turning malcontent if he doesn't get PT or gets benched. Obviously we can hope he's matured and can handle it better this time, but backing up Kessler is a very different job than the one he's had this season.

 

[whatthe]

If we keep Walker, it gets difficult for Nurk. We have lots of capable bigs. His defensive impact is based on smarts and rebounding but not hunting down his man. He pairs well with JJJ. It's possible he gets good playing time next year but he could just get a few minutes a night in backup role. If we are going to be competitive a great help in the playoffs. If Flip levels up and becomes more like Nirk then maybe Nurk gets totally squoze out.

Side note: lots of shooting skill possibilities with our backup bigs. This all works great with Zay. I love him in his role let him keep driving hard to the basket as a go to element and feed it to shooters. And the young guys can keep driving. Nurk could have a role where he can semi rest on offense doing hub work and passing.

 

[LogGrad98]

I am one of the few who wouldn't mind seeing if Ball has anything left to give. I always thought he was fairly solid as a player, until his body proved to be, uh, less solid. Nothing game-changing but you could have worse running your 2nd unit.

 

[Tanktastic]

I am one of the few who wouldn't mind seeing if Ball has anything left to give.

He doesn't. He's toast.

<5pts on 20 mins per game and shooting 30 %.

And you can't see any glimpses on the court either.

I'm sure there will be at least one FO that still thinks like you, though.

 

[LogGrad98]

He doesn't. He's toast.

<5pts on 20 mins per game and shooting 30 %.

And you can't see any glimpses on the court either.

I'm sure there will be at least one FO that still thinks like you, though.

For this year, those are all plusses. And we could see if there is anything left to dig up with the added benefit of a better pick in the draft. Win-win.