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siromar said:
Favors, Kanter, and Burks have such potential. Even though Kanter did not play well, the second unit (with Burks) felt in control of the game the entire time. Sacramento kept it close, but it was a struggle for every basket, and they would have eventually collapsed. I can't wait to see what's possible when the youth develop their game. I personally think we'll have a special product once this vet nightmare is over.
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Agree with all said outside of Kanter not playing well. Yes, he was only 1/3 but had 6 Rbs in 15 minutes and played good defense overall.....
 
I thought Kanter was playing great defense on Cousins. He was actually able to hold the big man in place. 6 minutes left in the quarter, the starters comes in, the momentum shifts and the Jazz lose. Same crap, different night. Hell, I don't even get angry with a loss anymore. It's almost expected when the starters come in.
 
Cope said:
Agree with all said outside of Kanter not playing well. Yes, he was only 1/3 but had 6 Rbs in 15 minutes and played good defense overall.....
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Ya I don't disagree. I just mean he didn't play specially well (compared to normal), while Favors and Burks did.
 
Weezur said:
The Jazz better win.

Prediction:
If Al/Sap get more than 35 minutes each, the Jazz lose.
That leaves 26 mins for Favs/Kanter combo.
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I hate being wrong.
Al- 28:43
Sap- 24:49
Favs- 25:10
Kanter - 17:18

That being said, Al and Sap had one of the worst games I've ever seen by them today....so I wasn't completely wrong.
 
asian_roger said:
I thought Kanter was playing great defense on Cousins. He was actually able to hold the big man in place. 6 minutes left in the quarter, the starters comes in, the momentum shifts and the Jazz lose. Same crap, different night. Hell, I don't even get angry with a loss anymore. It's almost expected when the starters come in.
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This this and all this
 
Anyone that says Kanter had a bad game tonight either only looked at box scores or dont understand defensive bball. Kanter was terrific on defense and shut down cousins who was eating jefferson alive. Also Sacramento was just eating up rebounds before kanter got in. Kanter was just fantastic on defense and the boards. Favors was great as well.
 
oldtimer said:
Anyone that says Kanter had a bad game tonight either only looked at box scores or dont understand defensive bball. Kanter was terrific on defense and shut down cousins who was eating jefferson alive. Also Sacramento was just eating up rebounds before kanter got in. Kanter was just fantastic on defense and the boards. Favors was great as well.
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Have to agree ..

<----- even if that jades me.
 
I want to reiterate... man the young guns looked good. Favors had several great moves only for him to miss at the last second at the rim... if those start going in, and with this already strong defensive ability... man
 
Millsap and Jefferson looked like crap.

Millsap was useless and Jefferson was ineffective. Our starting bigs only managed 40 percent shooting, 10 rebounds, and no... NOOOOOO FREE THROW ATTEMPTS.

For a team that struggles with their perimeter game, it was amazing that we were still in this even though our bigs were playing like pansies.

Thanks to Harris, Howard, Burks, and CJ for bringing it.

Al, Paul, and Hayward? How many more games do you jokes need to choke away?
 
Tonight's "I'm way in over my head with this coaching thing" Play of the Game was brought to you by Ty Corbin.

36.4 seconds left - Kings up 98-96 - Utah basketball side out-of-bounds.
What play does Corbin draw up out of a timeout? Why a postup for Al on the left-block of course!
The funny/sad thing is - like he had all night - Cousins simply mandhandled "Big Al" and pushed him not only off the block but all the way out to the 3-point line. He moved "Big Al" as if he were on roller skates.

Harris realized the "set play" had broken down and did a nice job creating - he drove the lane and found Hayward open in the corner for a good look at a three.

It's ridiculous how Ty's mindset has become when all else fails - get the ball to Big Al. I can imagine Ty losing his keys or forgeting his wallet - and the first thought to pop into his mind would be to go to postup Big Al on the left block.
 
vslice02 said:
Tonight's "I'm way in over my head with this coaching thing" Play of the Game was brought to you by Ty Corbin.

36.4 seconds left - Kings up 98-96 - Utah basketball side out-of-bounds.
What play does Corbin draw up out of a timeout? Why a postup for Al on the left-block of course!
The funny/sad thing is - like he had all night - Cousins simply mandhandled "Big Al" and pushed him not only off the block but all the way out to the 3-point line. He moved "Big Al" as if he were on roller skates.

Harris realized the "set play" had broken down and did a nice job creating - he drove the lane and found Hayward open in the corner for a good look at a three.

It's ridiculous how Ty's mindset has become when all else fails - get the ball to Big Al. I can imagine Ty losing his keys or forgeting his wallet - and the first thought to pop into his mind would be to go to postup Big Al on the left block.
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I agree with you, but
The problem is there's no go to player. Al is the only one who can legitamitly go one on one and he sucked today. Who else do you draw a play for? Howard? He got a charging call late too. Sap? Oh no.
A pick n roll would've been the best play though.
 
Weezur said:
I agree with you, but
The problem is there's no go to player. Al is the only one who can legitamitly go one on one and he sucked today. Who else do you draw a play for? Howard? He got a charging call late too. Sap? Oh no.
A pick n roll would've been the best play though.
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Exactly - in the history of the franchise, late game baskets have never been about going to a single-player and getting out of his way so he can go 1-on-1. In these situations it's either pick&roll, give&go, or something where we attack or go to the basket. If we have a Kobe or Dirk - sure I'd be alright with an iso but we don't - yet Ty either doesn't realize this or isn't creative enough to draw up something besides a postup to Big Al. I think it's a combination of the two, but I blame Ty for this mess well before I blame Big Al.
 
vslice02 said:
Exactly - in the history of the franchise, late game baskets have never been about going to a single-player and getting out of his way so he can go 1-on-1. In these situations it's either pick&roll, give&go, or something where we attack or go to the basket. If we have a Kobe or Dirk - sure I'd be alright with an iso but we don't - yet Ty either doesn't realize this or isn't creative enough to draw up something besides a postup to Big Al. I think it's a combination of the two, but I blame Ty for this mess well before I blame Big Al.
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A pick n roll is still only marginally better.
Best scenario is that Al shoots a free throw jumper.
Likely scenario is they sag off Al and give Devin the shot. Devin is incredibly terrible in crunch time.

But yeah I agree that late game baskets should not be one on ones when you don't have a star.
 
Weezur said:
A pick n roll is still only marginally better.
Best scenario is that Al shoots a free throw jumper.
Likely scenario is they sag off Al and give Devin the shot. Devin is incredibly terrible in crunch time.

But yeah I agree that late game baskets should not be one on ones when you don't have a star.
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Agreed a high pick and roll with Devin can be a disaster when the trap, but IMO the biggest difference is with a screen-roll you're moving, putting the pressure on the defense to defend you - you're forcing them to not only stop ball but to guard the entire court - particularly the weakside, and tonight they were late stepping out on Harris and Devin was able to get a step on Isiah and get in the lane (3rd-qtr back-to-back plays where he set Big Al up for an open 15-footer and then drove the lane and spoon-fed him for a dunk). If you throw it to Big Al then stand, the defense can dig in and focus on stopping 1 marginally effective player in a 5-foot radius who isn't a threat to pass out instead of keeping the ball in the middle of the court and forcing Sacrament to guard all 5 players in a 23'x50' area.
 
vslice02 said:
Agreed a high pick and roll with Devin can be a disaster when the trap, but IMO the biggest difference is with a screen-roll you're moving, putting the pressure on the defense to defend you - you're forcing them to not only stop ball but to guard the entire court - particularly the weakside, and tonight they were late stepping out on Harris and Devin was able to get a step on Isiah and get in the lane (3rd-qtr back-to-back plays where he set Big Al up for an open 15-footer and then drove the lane and spoon-fed him for a dunk). If you throw it to Big Al then stand, the defense can dig in and focus on stopping 1 marginally effective player in a 5-foot radius who isn't a threat to pass out instead of keeping the ball in the middle of the court and forcing Sacrament to guard all 5 players in a 23'x50' area.
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Actually, you're right.
The pick n roll is way and away the best play to call....I forgot that Demarcus Cousins is a bad pick n roll defender.
Dam you Corbin!!
 
I was disappointed that we had Big Al on Salmons the play before that and we let Salmons jump in front of the pass and poke the ball away.
 
I find it absolutely stunning a team of professional basketball players can go 10/21 from the line. Yikes.
 
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