And Jesus Said Unto Them, "And Whom Do You Say That I Am?"

[PearlWatson]

The populace or those in charge (until they are overthrown).

Killing is wrong, except in societies when it is done to uphold one's honor. Thou shalt not kill, unless God commands you to slay an entire civilization and take over their lands for your inheritance (OT). Society evolves and changes and so do the once absolute laws that govern that society.

So the minority(tyrant in charge) or the majority decides what is right and wrong?

 

[PearlWatson]

Reason

"Once man's connection to the divine is denied, you can reason yourself from here to anywhere."

 

[Stoked]

I'm not religious at all, but what bugs me the most about certain religious people (of any religion) is when they think God gives a **** about sports.

He doesn't. He doesn't care if your team wins.

HEATHEN!!!!! Every religious diety (especially that many armed chick because be honest you'd hit it) is a Jazz Fan. Repent sinner!!!!

 

[Stoked]

So the minority(tyrant in charge) or the majority decides what is right and wrong?

Have you paid attention to history at all?

 

[Scat]

Society determines what is and isn't acceptable. Religion plays a large role in this. What is acceptable in Utah is not acceptable in NJ. For even greater contrast, what is acceptable in the Middle East is not acceptable in the US. Unfortunately we in the US seem to think that if we find behaviors, laws and customs unacceptable elsewhere it is our duty to change these other countries to our ways.

 

[Gameface]

"Once man's connection to the divine is denied, you can reason yourself from here to anywhere."

A connection to the fantasy of a devine being? That's what I'm talking about. Being an atheist doesn't make God go away if he's real and having faith doesn't make God exist if he isn't real.

 

[Xsy]

HEATHEN!!!!! Every religious diety (especially that many armed chick because be honest you'd hit it) is a Jazz Fan. Repent sinner!!!!

I know the LDS faith is wrong because the Jazz still haven't won a chip.

Boston is truly God's city.

 

[PearlWatson]

Have you paid attention to history at all?

There is no right and wrong if it is relative.

There is only lawful or unlawful.

 

[Stoked]

There is no right and wrong if it is relative.

There is only lawful or unlawful.

Only might and weakness

 

[colton]

^Something I never understood about that. If we actually have a bunch of missionaries in Spirit Prison/Paradise, what's the point of baptisms for the dead?

That's precisely the reason. The spirits who wish to accept Christ must still make a covenant with him through baptism. And since it's impossible for a spirit to be baptized, we are baptized by proxy for those who have passed on--typically our ancestors. And since right now we have no way of telling which of our ancestors actually wish to make this covenant, we do proxy baptisms for ALL of them. Or at least all that we can identify. (Presumably during the Millennium the connection between this world and the spirit world will be more evident, so we will be able to focus on those specifically who desire the proxy baptisms.)

 

[PearlWatson]

A connection to the fantasy of a devine being? That's what I'm talking about. Being an atheist doesn't make God go away if he's real and having faith doesn't make God exist if he isn't real.

This conclusion comes from reason:

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...an-An-Abortion&p=266106&viewfull=1#post266106

 

[colton]

I have no idea where this came from, but I saw it on numerous places on teh interwebs and thought it was hilarious, had to post it:

And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?"
They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our very selfhood revealed."
And Jesus replied, "What?"

Proving conclusively that a lot of theologians are useless and have no concept of actual life.

To follow up on the original post--I think just about all LDSers would agree with you and would appreciate the humor. Since there we have no paid clergy, we have essentially no theologians. And we would go with the much simpler answer that Peter gave in Matt 16, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."