Mormon LeBron (Jabari Parker of Simeon HS)

[Jazz Spazz]

I don't think he goes to BYU either. I would love that, but he will be at a Kentuky, Kansas, NC, Duke type school.
No way he goes Pac 12 either.

On the other hand, I can still dream until he decides... and shatters them.

 

[Deleted member 365]

When you're livin the right way, magic happens

 

[The Black Swordsman]

That curse of Cain.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

That curse of Cain.

Are you trying to prove your sig line to be true? "the illusion of knowledge"?

 

[Craig K. Manscill]

When you're livin the right way, magic happens

That's true, there are a lot of LDS in the NBA, so you can tell that we are a truly blessed people!

- Craig

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I thought it was the curse of Cain was black skin as pointed out by

2 Nephi 5 :21
"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."

If your saying I'm quoting out of context the verses around this one point the same thing...

Like with Islam many people quote Qur'an 9:5 (The verse of the sword) which says "to kill them were you find them"

However it is simply out of context because Qur'an 9:6 says that if they don't want to fight, not only do you not fight them, you help defend them.

I want to hear a Mormon's prespective on 2 Nephri 5 :21

The only thing I got were people on this board like TroutBum saying "that's right, I find black people Ugly"

 

[bigb]

Are you trying to prove your sig line to be true? "the illusion of knowledge"?

He doesn't try. He just proves it on a daily basis.

 

[Stoked]

TBS you are an embarrassment to your family, religion, friend and this country. I say this because you have to attack something different than you. You are not content in your life until you make others feel bad. Pathetic.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

TBS you are an embarrassment to your family, religion, friend and this country. I say this because you have to attack something different than you. You are not content in your life until you make others feel bad. Pathetic.

According to you and its a good thing for me that your opinion is wrong

Still only response to this is "Yep, I think Black people are ugly"

 

[Hantlers]

That curse of Cain.

I can't lie, I actually laughed at this.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

As much as I loathe the Black Swordsman as a poster and his constant need to turn almost every single thread into some sort of religious debate, I can't help but notice people aren't in here tripping over themselves to directly address his post in which he references the passage from Nephi that references the mark of Cain. I'm interesed to see the LDS point of view on that passage, because it seems pretty black and white to me (no pun intended).

With that being said, Swordsman, knock it off. Not every thread has to turn into a personal soapbox for you and your personal beliefs. We all get it: You're a muslim, you're convinced it's the right way to live, and you're convinced that everybody else is wrong. Message recieved, loud and clear. Now please, for the love of Allah, shut the hell up.

 

[colton]

As much as I loathe the Black Swordsman as a poster and his constant need to turn almost every single thread into some sort of religious debate, I can't help but notice people aren't in here tripping over themselves to directly address his post in which he references the passage from Nephi that references the mark of Cain. I'm interesed to see the LDS point of view on that passage, because it seems pretty black and white to me (no pun intended).

That passage in the Book of Mormon is talking about one particular group of people at one specific point in time. The people were all Israelites (Nephite vs. Lamanites), with the possible exception that they may have intermarried with any other people that may have lived there. My own opinion is that the darker skin did come from intermarriage with others, and was symbolic of them forgetting the covenants the Lord had made with Israel. At any rate, it has absolutely nothing to do with people of African descent. Blacks in that context simply do not enter into the Book of Mormon at all. And that passage never even mentions Cain or Cain's curse.

That being said, there are certainly 19th and early 20th century LDS who did associate being black with the curse of Cain. As did many other nonLDS individuals of that time period. But as far as I know, they never used that passage from the Book of Mormon to justify it (there was another passage from the Book of Abraham that was used, if I recall correctly).