Obama Might Lose This

[larryselbows]

So yeah, you're right. I haven't been inspired by any president other than the ones in the history books.

 

[Stoked]

So yeah, you're right. I haven't been inspired by any president other than the ones in the history books.

Exactly. I do not expect to be inspired by any candidate with a "serious shot". That is a result of the money and establishment backing that is needed to have that shot.

Look at Ron Paul. he inspires his followers but he does not have a snow balls chance in hell of ever winning. Why? Money and power do not want him to be nominated. (not advocating for him. Just an example of someone who inspires people and how he is not nominated.)

 

[larryselbows]

... he's also nuts.

 

[Stoked]

... he's also nuts.

I agree on some aspects but he inspires those who follow him. And he will never have a shot. Only people that ultimately can be bought and sold by the lobbyists have a shot at election.

 

[Revolution 9]

Absolutely nothing. That said, it is not the federal government's responsibility. You can't take my private property forcibly away and give it to whoever you think deserves it. This is one of the biggest reasons for the American Revolution. Do you think King George had it right?



It's called free enterprise and capitalism. It's not perfect but it has helped shape America into the greatest, most powerful country ever. You have to take the bad with the good and there has been more good than bad. Even the destitute in America have a cell phone and cable on an HDTV.

This is false. It has destroyed ours culture, middle class, and moved jobs overseas to where things are cheaper. you cant let the dollar control you. Capitalism has no humanity in it, and therefore no chance. Government flawed as it maybe cares a lot more for us that business does. It's our job to make sure humanity comes first overall. Then and only then can we truly succeed.

 

[franklin]

This is false. It has destroyed ours culture, middle class, and moved jobs overseas to where things are cheaper. you cant let the dollar control you. Capitalism has no humanity in it, and therefore no chance. Government flawed as it maybe cares a lot more for us that business does. It's our job to make sure humanity comes first overall. Then and only then can we truly succeed.

Did you just praise collectivist virtues while condemning jobs going to the poorest people on earth?

 

[Stoked]

This is false. It has destroyed ours culture, middle class, and moved jobs overseas to where things are cheaper. you cant let the dollar control you. Capitalism has no humanity in it, and therefore no chance. Government flawed as it maybe cares a lot more for us that business does. It's our job to make sure humanity comes first overall. Then and only then can we truly succeed.

I can see capitalism not caring for me but I do not think government does either. They want to control me but they do not care about me.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Republicans: "People can't control our free market, but we can control who you marry."

 

[DutchJazzer]

https://realclearpolitics.com/elections/

Wisconsin has moved from "leans Dem" to "toss up". The latest national polls show Romney with a 3% lead.

While it appears that Obama has the lead in individual states that lead is drastically narowing and is within margin of error in some polls. It appears that N.C and Florida are going back and forth on who has the lead. Wisconsin and Iowa have narrowed...

Interesting race and I think that if Obama does not step it up and get serious he will lose this.

good riddance.
why would usa give a communistic socialistic president a second term

 

[Duck Rodgers]

This is false. It has destroyed ours culture, middle class, and moved jobs overseas to where things are cheaper. you cant let the dollar control you. Capitalism has no humanity in it, and therefore no chance. Government flawed as it maybe cares a lot more for us that business does. It's our job to make sure humanity comes first overall. Then and only then can we truly succeed.

The Invisible Hand missed the train to Jykell Island, The Invisible Hand didn't attend Breton Woods, The Invisible Hand didn't craft/sign GATT, NAFTA, or any other flawed trade agreement nor did it establish the WTO or every other corrupt globalist institution whose flaws are showing themselves in very public ways now. All credit goes to real people representing real governments and corporations - or government gimps and coporate jackels as might better fit the characters. So how exactly is half of the problem, the solution to the problem? If we're learning anything from history books or current events it should be that BIG in every form = massive corruption. Big in every form impedes freedom and lessens humanity. Big doesn't work.

 

[Nate505]

Republicans: "People can't control our free market, but we can control who you marry."

Republicans essentially suck when it comes to personal liberties, but are great at economic liberties.

Democrats essentially suck when it comes to economic liberties, but are great at personal liberties.

Libertarians are great at both, which is why I spiritually consider myself one.

 

[Nate505]

Nate and Cy, when was the last time a candidate truly inspired you based on merits? (ignoring the false inspiration of hope and change Obama won with)

None in my lifetime, though I was a kid when Reagan was President (born in the Carter administration). Clinton is probably as close as it gets, but he wasn't exactly inspiring. But he was competent (though he had his share of right wing nutjob detractors who thought he was the worse thing since Hitler) and now competence seems to be asking for a lot.