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Republicans essentially suck when it comes to personal liberties, but are great at economic liberties.

Democrats essentially suck when it comes to economic liberties, but are great at personal liberties.

Libertarians are great at both, which is why I spiritually consider myself one.

As time goes by I am increasingly libertarian. Especially over the last two years.
 
Republicans essentially suck when it comes to personal liberties, but are great at economic liberties.

Democrats essentially suck when it comes to economic liberties, but are great at personal liberties.

Libertarians are great at both, which is why I spiritually consider myself one.

So you believe that no regulations is best for a our country?
 
This is false. It has destroyed ours culture, middle class, and moved jobs overseas to where things are cheaper. you cant let the dollar control you. Capitalism has no humanity in it, and therefore no chance. Government flawed as it maybe cares a lot more for us that business does. It's our job to make sure humanity comes first overall. Then and only then can we truly succeed.

Free markets let humans be humans. You want humanity, it's there in the chaos.
 
So you believe that no regulations is best for a our country?

There is a difference between regulation and holding business accountable when they cause damage. I'm 110% for holding businesses accountable, not so much for piling regulations higher and deeper.
 
There is a difference between regulation and holding business accountable when they cause damage. I'm 110% for holding businesses accountable, not so much for piling regulations higher and deeper.

What about holding them accountable and not more regulation but straight forward regulations that are overseen and followed. I'm for that the problem is there are very smart business men that will push these limits or blaze new trails. Which in turn does make a need for new regulations.
 
So you believe that no regulations is best for a our country?

No, and I have issues with the capital L Libertarians and their platform (I think government has a lot of benefit, from national parks to food safety to code enforcement to national defense). However, there is a happy medium with needed regulations and over regulation.
 
No, and I have issues with the capital L Libertarians and their platform (I think government has a lot of benefit, from national parks to food safety to code enforcement to national defense). However, there is a happy medium with needed regulations and over regulation.


Agreed. But, like I've tried to point out that those with the money are setting the rules. Regulation while there are a lot of them are teethless based on the simpleness of one party trying to tear them down and the other party trying to patch the holes. Why not get the right to agree that the free market needs oversight then from that point we have a common ground and we can move forward. Also, there are ways that these guys are trying to always buck the system. So, regulations have to be able to evolve as business men prod at the boundaries.
 
Think about it 10 years ago there was no need to regulate the derivatives market or worry about companies like AIG hedging at the requests of Goldmann. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-22/goldman-sachs-said-to-name-counterparties-on-aig-hedges-for-u-s-panels.html

Ten years ago bankers were not inventing clever predatory lending policies then pushing companies to sell them.

I think sometimes regulation helps businesses. I was dinosaurs like the big automakers that kept pushing against changing regulations on MPG standards being raised.

Are some regulations too over burdensome I would have to say 'yes'. But, until we can make the right regulations at the right times and then hold everyone accountable. We will continue to see the same trend we have now the rich break the rules and those companies without the same assets are stuck in the regulator box trying to control that rule breaker's company.
 
Agreed. But, like I've tried to point out that those with the money are setting the rules. Regulation while there are a lot of them are teethless based on the simpleness of one party trying to tear them down and the other party trying to patch the holes. Why not get the right to agree that the free market needs oversight then from that point we have a common ground and we can move forward. Also, there are ways that these guys are trying to always buck the system. So, regulations have to be able to evolve as business men prod at the boundaries.

Haha, KOC. No one is arguing with you there. It is very much a problem. But I am telling you that it is a bipartisan problem and not a republican one. That is where we disagree.
 
I find this interesting...



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That is exactly why the literary agent put that he was born in Kenya up until 2007 when he ran for the Senate. It was to make the bio more interesting. That's the same reason he "compressed" all his "girlfriends" for his Dreams of my Father book.
 
Does "natural" born mean born on US soil or born a US citizen?

Either way he is president guys (directed at the american birther adherents) that subject is dead.
 
Does "natural" born mean born on US soil or born a US citizen?

Either way he is president guys (directed at the american birther adherents) that subject is dead.

Agreed. If the only way you can beat the guy is by trying to disqualify him based on a technicality then your position is pretty weak. Try attacking his positions and his record, not his imagined religion and his imagined nationality.
 
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