Following potential 2012 draftees
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Yeah, Teague is alright. His brother Jeff is starting to be a decent starting PG, so that gives me hope for Marquis because he is considered better.
I gave you several examples of guys who don't have text book shots who improved their shots or were able to score once they got in the league. The kid is what 19 years old and you act like he has zero chance of being able to score in the NBA. I agree he will never be an elite scoring but he can be a 17 -18 pt scorer with 7 rebounds 4 assists and 2 steals and an all-defensive team candidate. I think he will draw a lot of fouls and get to the line.
All of Calipari's PG's struggle at the beginning of the season. Knight was averaging 5to's per game the first 15 or so games. Wall was a mess the first dozen games.
I'm not real high on Teague, but I think he's undervalued at this point. I like him low to mid 20's as well.
I mean this the right way, but I'm surprised at your response. I would have expected a complete indictment of Teague's game. You're okay sometimes.
Not in the half-court.
Darius Miller would be outstanding value in the late first or early second. It’s not super-sexy, but he’s a safe pick, fills a serious need on the wing and will be NBA ready from day one. Pending the development of Burks and Hayward, I could see us clamoring for Miller to start by early 2013.
Not a Teague fan, however. He’s decent across the board, but would have no business starting over Devin Harris. He has the look of a serviceable backup/spot starter, but that’ s no help to a team in the hunt for a franchise point guard.
Not a Teague fan, however. He’s decent across the board, but would have no business starting over Devin Harris. He has the look of a serviceable backup/spot starter, but that’ s no help to a team in the hunt for a franchise point guard.
NBA ready from Day 1? What?
I don't understand the love for Darius Miller and his extreme mediocrity throughout his 4 years at UK. I like him as a 2nd round pick, but I wouldn't use a 1st on him when there are about 4 FA we can sign who do exactly the same thing he does.
According to DX Best Case: Danny Green. The placeholder for Manu.
NAOS
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Are you clammering to start Carroll instead?
DMiller would be a great fit. Good glue guy.
It's you that's over-reacting to DMiller
Yeah, I would probably rather keep Carroll instead. Better defender, better rebounder, better hustle.
But we should all applaud Miller for taking a back seat to freshman every year of his career.
orangello
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Are you saying that if we draft Miller we also get Ginobili?
orangello
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Better defender? At this point I would say yes.
Better rebounder? Undecided. Davis, Jones and MKG hogged all the rebounds.
Better Hustle? Yes to Caroll
With that being said, Miller has a higher ceiling and his ability to shoot outweighs the things that Carroll has over him. I would guess that within a years time that we will all see that Miller is the clear favorite to get more playing time.
On a side note, Miller's willingness to take whatever role was asked of him is a skill. It take some mental strength and discipline to do whatever is asked of you while not ruining the locker room. I know that you used this as a negative but I see this as a huge positive. If Millsap had this mentality then the Jazz would be sitting pretty next year and this logjam at the 4/5 position would not be as big a concern as it is right now.
Both players have 4 year college careers to judge their rebounding on. Carroll > Miller.
If Millsap had that mentality, he wouldn't be the player he is today.
I would rather just take more of a risk, on anybody really. We already have the safe 5th man role player in Carroll.
1.) Yes. I think Miller will get minutes immediately on whichever team drafts him. His skill set (very good shooter, solid defender/ballhandler, very polished player) fits in any system. He's very developed physically and is a smart, cerebral player.
2.) His status as a 6th man and 10-12 ppg stats do not equal mediocrity. He played with the best collection talent in the NCAA over the last four seasons and was never the first or second option on those Kentucky teams.
3.) He is being discussed as an early second round pick. I think most everyone would agree that a serviceable, 7th/8th player (a la Danny Green, thank you DX) would be a great value as an early second rounder.
We're not discussing him as a savior here. Until we make a move for an early-to-mid first round pick, a move up to 30-40 seems like a more likely possibility.
He is being discussed on the board as taking him in the 1st round. In the 2nd I don't really care, I just don't want him in the 1st.
spycam1
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Do you have anyone particular in mind at 28-30 you'd rather have?
mellow
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Sorry this is off topic from the Miller debate, but here are a couple of draft related items I found interesting.
Golden State or this guy who covers them has lots of options and no plan for the 7th pick: https://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawak...at-7-jones-jones-drummond-zeller-pg-or-trade/
and the Phoenix Suns are telling the media they want perimeter players
So naturally they will draft Terrence Jones, Zeller, Meyers Leonard or Arnett Moultrie. For me, looking at the Suns position, I am less impressed with the Jazz playoff 'run'.
Golden State or this guy who covers them has lots of options and no plan for the 7th pick: https://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawak...at-7-jones-jones-drummond-zeller-pg-or-trade/
and the Phoenix Suns are telling the media they want perimeter players
So naturally they will draft Terrence Jones, Zeller, Meyers Leonard or Arnett Moultrie. For me, looking at the Suns position, I am less impressed with the Jazz playoff 'run'.
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