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franklin

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Tyrus Thomas, Augustine*, #2, for Jefferson, GSW pick, and a future top 4 protected pick.

Thomas' contract sucks and reports on Augustine are that he didn't improve much. If he's serviceable for 6 years then Jazz get set with potentially 6 solid young guys and cap room to either go after veteran FA's or retain financial flexibility in preparation to re-sign the young guys.

Augustine
Hayward, Burks
MKG, Hayward
Favors, Millsap
Kanter

*Bobcats can s-n-t Augustine as long as he doesn't sign an offer sheet from another team. See Larry Coon #88.


I don't think Bobcats get enough but this would be a solid trade foundation to build upon.
 
When my account is activated on BobcatsPlanet, I'll pose this trade to them
 
Forget Augustine, why do we want a mediocre undersized PG signed to a long deal term? Give me Maggette (expiring contract), Tyrus Thomas, 2nd Pick for Big Al, GS Pick, top 10 protected 2013 pick.

If we could sign Nash..

Nash/Harris/Watson
Hayward/Burks/Maggette
MKG/Hayward/Maggette
Millsap/Favors/Thomas
Favors/Kanter

Augustine has shot an average of 39.2% his last three seasons. Hell no why would we ever do a sign and trade for him
 
utahjazz107 said:
Forget Augustine, why do we want a mediocre undersized PG signed to a long deal term? Give me Maggette (expiring contract), Tyrus Thomas, 2nd Pick for Big Al, GS Pick, top 10 protected 2013 pick.

If we could sign Nash..

Nash/Harris/Watson
Hayward/Burks/Maggette
MKG/Hayward/Maggette
Millsap/Favors/Thomas
Favors/Kanter

Augustine has shot an average of 39.2% his last three seasons. Hell no why would we ever do a sign and trade for him
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Say NO to MKG for this team. He can't shoot the deep ball. On the Jazz, he is nothing more than Ronnie Brewer. We need shooters. We have to get better at our three point shooting.
 
Unless you believe he can develop a three point shot. I wouldn't know that aspect of his game.
 
green said:
Say NO to MKG for this team. He can't shoot the deep ball. On the Jazz, he is nothing more than Ronnie Brewer. We need shooters. We have to get better at our three point shooting.
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Not saying he's what this particular team needs, but that ^^^ is an awful analysis.
 
green said:
Say NO to MKG for this team. He can't shoot the deep ball. On the Jazz, he is nothing more than Ronnie Brewer. We need shooters. We have to get better at our three point shooting.
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Nash, Maggette and Hayward aren't shooters? MKG isn't a horrible shooter and nor is Burks. If this was our starting lineup, I would be jumping out of my seat right now
 
PKM said:
Not saying he's what this particular team needs, but that ^^^ is an awful analysis.
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Ronnie Brewer's freshman year: 12 pts, 48% fg, 26% 3pt, 3 assists, 5 rebs, 1 blk, 2 steals
MKG's freshman year: 12 pts, 49% fg, 25% 3pt, 2 assists, 7 rebs, 1 blk, 1 stl

You also left out my "ON THE JAZZ" disclaimer. We need three point shooter. 25% from three ain't a three point shooter.

Then again, Burks and Hayward both shot 29% from three....he would fit right in.
 
I still respectfully disagree, with or without the disclaimer. MKG is better, way better, than Ronnie Brewer .. enough on that topic though.
 
green said:
Ronnie Brewer's freshman year: 12 pts, 48% fg, 26% 3pt, 3 assists, 5 rebs, 1 blk, 2 steals
MKG's freshman year: 12 pts, 49% fg, 25% 3pt, 2 assists, 7 rebs, 1 blk, 1 stl

You also left out my "ON THE JAZZ" disclaimer. We need three point shooter. 25% from three ain't a three point shooter.

Then again, Burks and Hayward both shot 29% from three....he would fit right in.
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Wingspan: 6'11 vs 7
Standing reach: 8'7.5" vs 8'8.5"
Body fat: 5% vs 7.5%

We need more to continue this debate... ;)

That being said, you are probably right. IF scouts think he develop a legit 3 pt shot, then I love him. If not, eh, we've seen this hype before.

When do his measurements come out?
 
green said:
Wingspan: 6'11 vs 7
Standing reach: 8'7.5" vs 8'8.5"
Body fat: 5% vs 7.5%

We need more to continue this debate... ;)

That being said, you are probably right. IF scouts think he develop a legit 3 pt shot, then I love him. If not, eh, we've seen this hype before.

When do his measurements come out?
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Measurements are not an completely accurate assesement of how a player plays. Physicality, leadership, mental toughness, hustle, heart...all things that have as great of an impact as measurements do.
 
MKG has one of the highest floors of out all the 2012 prospects. He is a sure player and will contribute right away. His ceiling may not be that high but he will definitely be better than Brewer
 
Stoked said:
Measurements are not an completely accurate assesement of how a player plays. Physicality, leadership, mental toughness, hustle, heart...all things that have as great of an impact as measurements do.
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I totally get this. I believe it. The big red flag I see is that the kid can't shoot, and everyone talks about his "intangibles" as being his big qualities. Yes, he showed toughness, heart, hustle, etc on a team with four other lottery picks. He played with superstar Tim Duncan aka Davis. He played with Antwain Jamison/Carlos Boozer aka Jones. You get my point.

I am just playing devil's advocate. It seems like MKG's big NBA skill is heart. A lot of those picks don't pan out. That is all I am saying.
 
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Height (w/o shoes): 6'5.75"
Height (w/ shoes): 6'7.5":
Weight: 232.8
Wingspan: 7'
Standing reach: 8'8.5"
Body fat percent: 7.0
Hand length: 9"
Hand width: 10.25"
 
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