One is worth $ .. the other they just give away. Which was it?
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One is worth $ .. the other they just give away. Which was it?
7StraightIsGreat
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Man, some people sure do love their kool-aid.
By all means, BYU should stop any further attempts trying to get into a big conference because a guy in Missouri watched BYU media day on BYUtv. I'm also sure that out of state football recruits (especially non-LDS ones) are just tripping over themselves to watch re-runs of BYU football games during the season. If BYU and it's fans are seriously happy with what they have now, in all honesty they should stick with it. However, don't be blind to the fact that BYUtv is pretty much reaching fans that are already BYU diehards/church memebers to begin with. How's that opening new doors? How is it reaching out to a recruiting base that BYU wouldn't have without BYUtv?
More importantly, how in the world would joining the likes of the Big 12 hurt BYU's exposure? Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't give up the right to show re-runs of your football games on a school owned cable channel if it meant joining the Big 12?! You want to reach people you've never reached before? You want to make yourself known to recruits who normally wouldn't consider BYU? Then you should be rooting for your school to drop the BYUtv demands if that is indeed what is holding them up from a Big 12 invite.
And Trout, while I'm sure you know quite a bit about wrecking puds, I wouldn't be too eager to see that game played if I were you. I'm very much looking forward to that game. Aside from Northern Colorado, I think it's Utah's best shot at a sure win. Utah is going to pack 8 in the box and force Riley Halfshirt Nelson to go down field (news flash: that's something he can't do very well unless he's bouncing it off Utah State defenders). Utah also has the athletes on defense to deal with Riley's happy legs as well as whatever it is BYU considers to be a run game. Prediction: Utah wins by at least 2 scores, doesn't renew with BYU for 2013 and Y fans are left to sit in their own stool while crying about how Utah is afraid to face them even though after a victory this year Utah will have won 4 our of the last 5 and 8 out of the last 11.
But fret not Trout and other BYU faithful, even if the series with Utah ends, you should have no problem watching re-runs of past BYU triumphs over Utah on BYUtv.
By all means, BYU should stop any further attempts trying to get into a big conference because a guy in Missouri watched BYU media day on BYUtv. I'm also sure that out of state football recruits (especially non-LDS ones) are just tripping over themselves to watch re-runs of BYU football games during the season. If BYU and it's fans are seriously happy with what they have now, in all honesty they should stick with it. However, don't be blind to the fact that BYUtv is pretty much reaching fans that are already BYU diehards/church memebers to begin with. How's that opening new doors? How is it reaching out to a recruiting base that BYU wouldn't have without BYUtv?
More importantly, how in the world would joining the likes of the Big 12 hurt BYU's exposure? Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't give up the right to show re-runs of your football games on a school owned cable channel if it meant joining the Big 12?! You want to reach people you've never reached before? You want to make yourself known to recruits who normally wouldn't consider BYU? Then you should be rooting for your school to drop the BYUtv demands if that is indeed what is holding them up from a Big 12 invite.
And Trout, while I'm sure you know quite a bit about wrecking puds, I wouldn't be too eager to see that game played if I were you. I'm very much looking forward to that game. Aside from Northern Colorado, I think it's Utah's best shot at a sure win. Utah is going to pack 8 in the box and force Riley Halfshirt Nelson to go down field (news flash: that's something he can't do very well unless he's bouncing it off Utah State defenders). Utah also has the athletes on defense to deal with Riley's happy legs as well as whatever it is BYU considers to be a run game. Prediction: Utah wins by at least 2 scores, doesn't renew with BYU for 2013 and Y fans are left to sit in their own stool while crying about how Utah is afraid to face them even though after a victory this year Utah will have won 4 our of the last 5 and 8 out of the last 11.
But fret not Trout and other BYU faithful, even if the series with Utah ends, you should have no problem watching re-runs of past BYU triumphs over Utah on BYUtv.
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Let me preface my comments by saying that I am a member of the LDS church, I grew up as a BYU sports fan, and I have bachelor's and masters degrees from the University of Utah. When BYU talks about exposure, they aren't just talking about exposure for their sports teams. They're talking about exposure for their entire university. You question the thought that joining the Big 12 could hurt BYU's exposure. In a sense you're right. Joining the Big 12 or another big conference would give a lot more exposure to the sports programs, but not necessarily the whole university. I never pay attention to the commercials touting the universities of the schools playing.
When conferences and schools create networks, they're usually trying to score big bucks. BYUtv is primarily about exposure. I've read that contrary to most networks, BYUtv doesn't charge television providers to carry their channel. That aside, providers want other reasons to carry BYUtv. They want to know that their customers will watch it. What better way to get a potential audience than by showing re-runs of football and basketball games? TV providers know BYU has a good national following and so they agree to carry BYUtv. Then on the other hand, BYU gets a nice deal with ESPN so they're able to get some money (maybe not as much as they could get if they were in a big conference) and a lot exposure. If BYU were in the Big 12 and couldn't show re-broadcasts of sporting events on BYUtv, the university could be hurt in the exposure department. Since BYU shows a lot of other things besides sports on BYUtv, you could argue that BYU should join a big conference to at least see how BYUtv is affected, but for now BYU is working on getting BYUtv to everyone, and maybe in the future they will decide to become part of a conference again. But I don't think you can fault them for doing what they think is best for the university.
7StraightIsGreat
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Thats actually a great reply. I have no doubt that BYU sports are a great thing for BYUtv. However, I still think that BYUtv is horrible for BYU football as long as its the sticking point for them joining a major conference. It seems most BYU fans are ok with that and I guess as long as you're appeasing the majority of your fanbase, then everything is ok.
asian_roger
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Classy haha and i loved it. I loved how byu player was tugging her shorts though, Utes don't take none of that.
That soccer match was between BYU and New Mexico. Just saying.
green
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You have a faulty assumption. You assume random college football fan would stumble on BYU playing ISU and actually click on the BYUtv and watch it.
Not necessarily a random college football fan. BYU has a good nationwide following, so someone who knows about and likes BYU could easily find it.
green
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But they most likely were already watching BYUtv. If you want new, non-mormon people seeing BYU sports, then the Big 12 will do that a lot better than BYUtv, especially if BYU were to join and be successful and Utah is successful in the PAC-12. You would then have TWO big time conferences tuning in to watch a big time game.