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colton said:
How do you figure Utah is less responsible for the lapse than BYU?
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They at least are doing something ambitious (playing Michigan), and BYU hasn't exactly done much to make themselves a more more attractive opponent by being independent. All that said, no matter how you try to divide the blame, they should still play each other every year.
 
jazzman12 said:
Sorry, but you should be nicer next time you guys have the upper hand in the rivalry.

Wait, that will never happen again. Oh well.
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Let's look at the "rivalry." The first 50 years (1922-1972) Utah's record was 41-8-4. Complete domination by Utah.

Then came LaVell. For the next 20 years (1972-1992) BYU completely dominated, going 19-2.

Then comes the last 19 years. In that time frame, Utah is 12-7, including 7 out of the last 10. The more this goes on, the more it looks like this hasn't been much of a rivalry, but more of a LaVell aberration. The reason why it has become "The Holy War" is not due to overall record, but BYU fan's actions during their blip on the radar. Well, what goes around comes around.

So, recap. Overall, Utah is 55-34, with Utah winning 62% of the time. If we take out the LaVell era, Utah has a 78% winning percentage. If we look at the last decade, Utah has 70% winning percentage against BYU with multiple blowouts, and BYU's only wins coming by a combined 12 pts (or 4 pts a win). Huh, the more and more this goes on, it looks like this isn't much of a rivalry, but a period of time where BYU had a great coach and Utah was down.

I just feel bad for BYU fan that caught Utah at a down time, built their lives around the fact that God loves BYU, therefore BYU beats Utah (who mysteriously pours beer on all BYU fans) because Utah isn't BYU. The more time goes on, they were just born at a lucky time, more than BYU is some national power.
 
Pathetic, but not surprising. Way to go Utes, you'll always be the guy with the 3D glasses that follows Biff Tannon around town.
 
green said:
Let's look at the "rivalry." The first 50 years (1922-1972) Utah's record was 41-8-4. Complete domination by Utah.

Then came LaVell. For the next 20 years (1972-1992) BYU completely dominated, going 19-2.

Then comes the last 19 years. In that time frame, Utah is 12-7, including 7 out of the last 10. The more this goes on, the more it looks like this hasn't been much of a rivalry, but more of a LaVell aberration. The reason why it has become "The Holy War" is not due to overall record, but BYU fan's actions during their blip on the radar. Well, what goes around comes around.

So, recap. Overall, Utah is 55-34, with Utah winning 62% of the time. If we take out the LaVell era, Utah has a 78% winning percentage. If we look at the last decade, Utah has 70% winning percentage against BYU with multiple blowouts, and BYU's only wins coming by a combined 12 pts (or 4 pts a win). Huh, the more and more this goes on, it looks like this isn't much of a rivalry, but a period of time where BYU had a great coach and Utah was down.

I just feel bad for BYU fan that caught Utah at a down time, built their lives around the fact that God loves BYU, therefore BYU beats Utah (who mysteriously pours beer on all BYU fans) because Utah isn't BYU. The more time goes on, they were just born at a lucky time, more than BYU is some national power.
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Ladies and gentleman, my new favorite poster: Green
I love how Conan and Trout followed with brief comments yet avoided tackling these points head on. I guess even they realize when something is hopelss. And YB, you nailed the only real negative in this: My yearly $25 stipend from Trout will be going away. On the bright side, maybe Trout will now be able to afford to outfit his girls in something other than YBU gear.
 
colton said:
One odd thing about this, though, is that many Utah fans are saying they don't need to play BYU because (in effect) Utah is now so much better than the Y.
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Link?

I think it's less Utah fans saying it, and more BYU fans saying that Utah fans say it.

I, for one, will miss those games.
 
colton said:
80-90% of the Ute fans are taking the "We're so far above the Y we don't need to play them" line.
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Wee bit of hyperbole on your part there, colton, but I guess you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe I'm doing the same. But I know a lot of U fans, and this is hardly the consensus.

Most are like me, believing that the schools have just taken different paths, and would rather see the rivalry stay.
 
While I am dissappointed that they are not going to play every year anymore. The reality is that the game lost most of it's luster when Utah changed conferences. This rivalry is bound to go the way of Utah/Utah state and Byu/Utah state. A nice game and fun because it's in state. But otherwise mostly meaningless.
 
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