Tyrone Corbin is Stupid

[Nate505]

wow, you just keep making fool of yourself. I suggest you look where mighty USA with best NBA players ended in FIFA World championship in 2006 and 2002. Both Eurochampionship and World championship is full of NBA players, calling it minor just shows you are arrogant/indulgent dumbass.

For one, the best players those years didn't play for the US in those tournaments. For US basketball players the Olympics the pinnacle of international play, not the FIBA WC. Raef Lafrentz made the 2002 US roster which shows how bad it was. Out of all the players on the US roster only 3 guys made all NBA teams for that season, and only Kidd made a first team, and he didn't even play in the tournament. The 2006 team was a much worse flop, but again, US players care about the Olympics, making 2004 in Greece a much bigger failure for them.

But compared to NBA achievements they are minor in the basketball world. The NBA is the absolute highest level of basketball in the world. And the year Tanjevec won them (sometime in the 80s and 1999) EuroBasket was hardly full of NBA players.

 

[Nate505]

NBA is the highest level but not the only level. Not all guys want to play or coach in NBA. What if Corbin has? Does that mean anything? Did he do anything other than being assistant before becoming a coach?

That's wonderful, and if Corbin ever bags on Tanjevic for being a lousy head coach then his opinion probably will carry as little weight as he's never coached in Europe at all. But Tanjevic has no idea what it means to be a coach in the NBA so his opinion there is worthless too.

Not sure what the last question means, since the typical progression of coaching goes from assistant to head coach.

 

[Nate505]

so Corbin's losing record in NBA is better then numerous international titles Tanjevic won? Lol, give me Jazz team to coach, I may not have better record then Corbin but still would get few wins... would that make be better coach then Tanjevic? NBA history is full of poor coaches who achieved nothing... so what that they sniffed NBA - that does not mean they are good coaches.
Just ridiculous logic or lack of it actually...

I don't know if it makes him better, but it certainly makes Tanjevic totally unqualified to comment on his lack of intelligence as a head coach in the NBA since he's never been able to achieve any sort of position at the NBA level.

 

[ema]

As I said earlier, I'm not fully defending statements of Tanjevic but comparing Corbin and Tanjevic with each other, at this point, is just an insult, not only to Tanjevic but also to all the good things of this game of Basketball. And I don't care even if Corbin was a coach on the planet Mars.

 

[Hekate]

That's wonderful, and if Corbin ever bags on Tanjevic for being a lousy head coach then his opinion probably will carry as little weight as he's never coached in Europe at all. But Tanjevic has no idea what it means to be a coach in the NBA so his opinion there is worthless too..

It's all about basketball. NBA may be a higher level but It's still basketball. Every basketball coach has knowledge about basketball. By your opinion every national competition would be a chuckfest because coaches wouldn't understand anything.

Not sure what the last question means, since the typical progression of coaching goes from assistant to head coach..

I said that because you can easily put Tanjevic aside who won many trophies but revere Corbin who did not accomplish anything just because he is in NBA. Damn, I believe Corbin can be a good coach sometime but you are talking like NBA is another sport.

 

[illyasova]

I did not know American fans would be this emotional while defending corbin or the other coaches in the NBA. Yes managing the superstars are more difficult for the coaches but being better coach needs more than it too. Analyzing the opponents, creating new systems, deciding immediately during the match, giving chance to young guys to improve, tactics after time outs and all.

So comparing Tanjevic with Corbin is just funny and disrespect to Tanjevic. Corbin is just a rookie coach and Tanjevic is a master who has been coaching since 1970s. Also some fanz here discusses that what European coaches have done for the basketball. So let's check some then:

Playing PF with unique skills who can spread the floor and give spacing for the C (Suns and magic achievements to reach the finals and now nearly all teams use it)

1-3-1 or 2-3 Zone defense when your team can not match with the opponents man to man or foul problems happened (Most NBA teams have been trying it after time outs due to damage the opponent's offense and make them surprsied)

Using Back doors from C to cutters ala guards or forwards ( Rick Adelman is master at this point thanks to Divac in Kings days and Scola in his Rockets days)

Playing with two PGs or SF a la point forward ( Doc Rivers was making it in 2009 semi finals against magic by playing both Rondo and Delonte west, Di antoni and Tom Thibeadu uses it when they wanna control the momentum)

Improving the pick n roll ( Not C-PG but also PF-SF or SF-SG) More fluid, mobile and fast game when your team's size and height is perfect. Lithuanian's characteristic game. ( Stan Van Gundy, Don Nelson, Di Antoni, Rick Adelman and Mike Brown use it so oftenly)

Well, i am sure some fanz can add the other details on the list but the matter is European coaches are generally better at details and we can not ignore the effects of Euro coaches on NBA basketball.

 

[addictionary]

Ty does not the the tiniest slice of the balls Tanjevic has.

 

[bjunior]

Well, Corbin will have his chance to become great.

David Blatt is one of the guys I would like to see coaching in NBA. He is just great.

 

[Nate505]

It's all about basketball. NBA may be a higher level but It's still basketball. Every basketball coach has knowledge about basketball. By your opinion every national competition would be a chuckfest because coaches wouldn't understand anything.



I said that because you can easily put Tanjevic aside who won many trophies but revere Corbin who did not accomplish anything just because he is in NBA. Damn, I believe Corbin can be a good coach sometime but you are talking like NBA is another sport.

The NBA is a far different level of basketball than any other league on the planet. Not just in x's and o's but in terms of managing egos and the quality of athletes. There's a reason college coaches rarely make it to the NBA. They can't handle the differences. It goes the other way as well. If Tanjevic wants to go on about what it takes to coach in the Turkish league or in international competition he has credibility there. He has none when it comes to the NBA. Who cares what he's done in lesser levels of basketball.

 

[Nate505]

As I said earlier, I'm not fully defending statements of Tanjevic but comparing Corbin and Tanjevic with each other, at this point, is just an insult, not only to Tanjevic but also to all the good things of this game of Basketball. And I don't care even if Corbin was a coach on the planet Mars.

You're right, comparing them is an insult. Corbin coaches in the best professional league on the planet. Tanjevic has never coached in the best professional league on the planet, but that doesn't stop him from yapping like he knows what it's like.

 

[Nate505]

I did not know American fans would be this emotional while defending corbin or the other coaches in the NBA.

It's not as much emotion as it is irritating. I imagine Turkish fans would be "emotional" if someone like Larry Brown said their coaching staff was full of idiots.

 

[Hekate]

The NBA is a far different level of basketball than any other league on the planet. Not just in x's and o's but in terms of managing egos and the quality of athletes. There's a reason college coaches rarely make it to the NBA. They can't handle the differences. It goes the other way as well. If Tanjevic wants to go on about what it takes to coach in the Turkish league or in international competition he has credibility there. He has none when it comes to the NBA. Who cares what he's done in lesser levels of basketball.

You don't have to be in NBA to be good at managing people. What did you think about Corbin when he played vets? Oh wait, he foresaw that youngs would just get too excited that they would forget how to play just because he is in NBA. Tanjevic has been coaching for 40 years. He can adapt to changes if he couldn't he wouldn't be around.

 

[illyasova]

It's not as much emotion as it is irritating. I imagine Turkish fans would be "emotional" if someone like Larry Brown said their coaching staff was full of idiots.

Larry Brown has rights to make comments about anyone as Tanjevic does. Also yea, last year Turkish coaching staff was full of idiots and it's not a secret.

 

[Nate505]

You don't have to be in NBA to be good at managing people. What did you think about Corbin when he played vets? Oh wait, he foresaw that youngs would just get too excited that they would forget how to play just because he is in NBA. Tanjevic has been coaching for 40 years. He can adapt to changes if he couldn't he wouldn't be around.

I can't think of any league in any world where vets, who are better than the rookies, don't get more playing time. I'd like to have seen the younger guys get more PT as well, but on most teams Favors would have sat behind Millsap and Al. Phil Jackson sat Andrew Bynum behind freaking Chris Mihm his rookie year and Kwame Brown his second year, both of who are far lesser players than Sap/Al.

Again, I'm no Corbin fan at all but that's not the point really. The point is that Tanjevic has no point of reference to call Corbin dumb, especially since he has no clue what it's like to coach in the NBA. He's coached in much lesser basketball leagues the majority of his career, leagues where the coach probably is the man on the team. Jerry Sloan (speaking of a coach who totally adapted to changes and lasted forever, heh) was probably the last coach to have total control like that, and even he started to lose it when he didn't have extremely respected vets like Stockton/Malone around. The other thing is Corbin hasn't even had enough time coaching to prove whether he's fit for the job or not. It's not like Tanjevic has years of records to base his opinion from.

 

[Nate505]

Larry Brown has rights to make comments about anyone as Tanjevic does. Also yea, last year Turkish coaching staff was full of idiots and it's not a secret.

Sure he has the right. And the Turkish fans would have the right to wonder "how the hell he would know."

 

[illyasova]

Sure he has the right. And the Turkish fans would have the right to wonder "how the hell he would know."

The wrong approach for me is American fanz think they untouchable or god and so biased about the European coaches, system etc. At least The European coaches, fanz, players watch the NBA or even NCAA and have chance to compare or improve themselves. How bout corbin or the others except Adelman, popovich, van Gundy and Brown? In 2008 olympics the America coach krzyzewski was making comments about papaloukas (big time player in Europe) that "who is this pg? Seems good one." This just summaries up the whole story.

 

[Hekate]

I can't think of any league in any world where vets, who are better than the rookies, don't get more playing time. I'd like to have seen the younger guys get more PT as well, but on most teams Favors would have sat behind Millsap and Al. Phil Jackson sat Andrew Bynum behind freaking Chris Mihm his rookie year and Kwame Brown his second year, both of who are far lesser players than Sap/Al.

Again, I'm no Corbin fan at all but that's not the point really. The point is that Tanjevic has no point of reference to call Corbin dumb, especially since he has no clue what it's like to coach in the NBA. He's coached in much lesser basketball leagues the majority of his career, leagues where the coach probably is the man on the team. Jerry Sloan (speaking of a coach who totally adapted to changes and lasted forever, heh) was probably the last coach to have total control like that, and even he started to lose it when he didn't have extremely respected vets like Stockton/Malone around. The other thing is Corbin hasn't even had enough time coaching to prove whether he's fit for the job or not. It's not like Tanjevic has years of records to base his opinion from.

I didn't have any problem with big rotation mostly but it was frustrating to see C.J and Howard though. While it's not right for Tanjevic to call Corbin stupid he has a point of reference. By what you say you shouldn't comment on anything related to NBA. You didn't play or coach in NBA(I assume). Corbin didn't have enough time to prove himself but Tanjevic proved himself in what I would call one level lower than NBA. So shouldn't he have a shot at NBA? I think he deserves more than Corbin. Again Tanjevic was harsh and he is calling Corbin stupid for few reasons but he has lots of knowledge about basketball to comment on anything about basketball. And NBA is basketball too.

 

[jazzyapma]

If Tanjevic would have coached the Jazz, I would seriously consider betting on the Jazz loosing to LA at WCF. Yes, WCF.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

He doesn't know heck about Corbin yet he gave his opinion. The ironing is delicious.

I just posted this to make your mouth water.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

It's awesome how anonymous people who like to criticize NBA caliber talent are complaining that this guy doesn't have the credentials to legitimately criticize NBA talent. The best part is that I agree with them. Tanjevic is stupid.