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Your thoughts on immortality.

Sports would become dull and pointless if the same players with more or less unchanging abilities kept playing the same sports.

We would be forced to watch Future Miami Heat win over and over again. Seems like hell to me.

Plus if you really could have your memory and personality stored on a server some where. People would live much riskier lives and sports would devolve into violent and extreme events. We would have much deaths on the playing fields of whatever games they are playing with no negative ramifications. So that could be cool, maybe.
 
We'll need to learn how to live in places other than Earth. If that happens it will be a great and wonderful thing. Especially since it would allow for extremely long space journeys.
 
We'll need to learn how to live in places other than Earth. If that happens it will be a great and wonderful thing. Especially since it would allow for extremely long space journeys.

Eventually yes, but people underestimate the power of technology. I read a late 1800s book that talked about how the planet was being pushed to the limit, and that overpopulation will cause mass starvation to an extent never before seen within a couple of decades of the publication of the book. With today's technology, the earth's population can be easily sustained. The reason ~1b+ people live in extreme poverty has little to do with production capacity. We have the know how to create vastly more food, water, and energy than we do now, but little incentive. And that's today. Who knows what will be possible with 2050s technology, let alone the 2300s. Additionally, we would need to change our habits. We would develop robust recycling system that reuses EVERYTHING. We would get rid of polluting tech. We would limit suburban crawl and expansion. And so on.

Right now, market forces are controlled by a few players, and the people are too comfortable to unite in a common cause. We'll see what happens when we start feeling the sting of resource depletion.
 
When scientists discovered leptin they thought they have discovered the end of obesity. It gave very disappointing results.

I am of the same opinion as Albert Einstein. I think it is tasteless to prolong life artificially to that extant.
 
When scientists discovered leptin they thought they have discovered the end of obesity. It gave very disappointing results.

I am of the same opinion as Albert Einstein. I think it is tasteless to prolong life artificially to that extant.

I can live with tasteless.
 
Gameface said:
We'll need to learn how to live in places other than Earth. If that happens it will be a great and wonderful thing. Especially since it would allow for extremely long space journeys.

An interesting movie that touches on this subject somewhat is Pandorum. I won't give away the plot line but it shows where society can head regardless of where it is at when one "falls asleep".

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I laughed.

Another curiosity would be to see how much religion would be diminished.. for obvious reasons.

I think at first there would be significant resistance from traditional religious institutions. But remember, those who accept immortality will persist for a long time. The opposition will simply die off. Sure they will teach their kids the same mores, but the appeal of living forever is very hard to resist. With time, fewer and fewer people will have a problem with immortality, and it will become accepted as the way things are. Just as travelling across the planet in half a day is normal and unexceptional nowadays. Since religion always evolves with mainstream social norms, it will morph into something different, if it is to survive at all. I expect something along the lines of "eternal life was misunderstood as a reference to life after death, but it is in fact an accurate and prophetic description of our times. The Bible/Quran/Torah/whatever is a recipe of how to live in these times".
 
I think at first there would be significant resistance from traditional religious institutions. But remember, those who accept immortality will persist for a long time. The opposition will simply die off. Sure they will teach their kids the same mores, but the appeal of living forever is very hard to resist. With time, fewer and fewer people will have a problem with immortality, and it will become accepted as the way things are. Just as travelling across the planet in half a day is normal and unexceptional nowadays. Since religion always evolves with mainstream social norms, it will morph into something different, if it is to survive at all. I expect something along the lines of "eternal life was misunderstood as a reference to life after death, but it is in fact an accurate and prophetic description of our times. The Bible/Quran/Torah/whatever is a recipe of how to live in these times".

I think you are overestimating how many people would choose immortality. If one were wealthy with a steady stream of unlimited income, I can see why it would be appealing. If one were a blue collar working man that had been at the construction site every day for 40 years and has just enough saved to retire comfortably at 67 and live until they are 80-85, what then? Go back to work for another 40 years just work your guts out and take another 20 year break? To live forever would mean you need not just the how but the means. Very few people have this capability.
 
I think you are overestimating how many people would choose immortality. If one were wealthy with a steady stream of unlimited income, I can see why it would be appealing. If one were a blue collar working man that had been at the construction site every day for 40 years and has just enough saved to retire comfortably at 67 and live until they are 80-85, what then? Go back to work for another 40 years just work your guts out and take another 20 year break? To live forever would mean you need not just the how but the means. Very few people have this capability.

Good response. But there are so many things I find wrong with your post. In my scenario, I asked you to imagine familiar possibilities because we do not actually know what life will be like a 100 years from now (or however long it'd take to achieve it). In reality, life would be very different. For one, why would you ever stop working? You would be a man of 90, but you'd feel like a youth in his 20s (physically). You're telling me that I'm underestimating the number of people who would choose to extend their perfectly healthy existence because they would not want to continue working? I don't think so. People retire now because they become old, tired, and sickly. They would like to enjoy the decade or two they got left.

Another, even more important point; you're assuming scarcity based lifestyles are the only ones possible. Not so. There may come a time where the notion of money and resource exchange becomes obsolete. Imagine this:

1. A cheap and ubiquitous source of energy. Futuristic fusion reactors are one possibility. But other options may be possible in the far future. Harvesting anti-matter from the radiation belt, for example. Maybe even Casimir Effect and other kinds of zero-point energy harvesters. Another option would be massive solar sails orbiting the sun and transmitting captures energy as coherent light. I can think of a thousand possibilities that do not violate understood laws of physics.

2. A fully automated and extensive recycling system that wastes very little. Additionally, we would have vastly more resources available through advanced mining/extracting/collecting techniques, and exploitation of extra-terrestrial resources (asteroids, gas giants, rocky planets, etc).

3. Cheap and sophisticated personal fabricators. Have you heard of 3d printers? They are devices you can buy for a few thousand dollars. You download models from the internet, and the printer will create it for you, one microscopic layer at a time. They were conceived only a couple of decades ago, and they have already dropped in price a few dozen times over, and become more and more useful. They are still very limited (very few material choices, limited colors, limited circuitry capabilities, kind of slow, and others). In time - regardless of whether immortality becomes feasible- such fabricators will be able to create a vast array of objects, from food to cars to computers, and all you'd need is the raw materials.

I can go on and on, but my point is, people will find a way to live productively. Our current paradigms are not the only possible ones.
 
Good response. But there are so many things I find wrong with your post. In my scenario, I asked you to imagine familiar possibilities because we do not actually know what life will be like a 100 years from now (or however long it'd take to achieve it). In reality, life would be very different. For one, why would you ever stop working? You would be a man of 90, but you'd feel like a youth in his 20s (physically). You're telling me that I'm underestimating the number of people who would choose to extend their perfectly healthy existence because they would not want to continue working? I don't think so. People retire now because they become old, tired, and sickly. They would like to enjoy the decade or two they got left.

The question is, who is willing to work for a 1000 years just so that they have youth and health? 1000 years is a hell of a long time. In fact, I'd argue it's near the definition of hell and what Satan would offer for your soul.
 
The question is, who is willing to work for a 1000 years just so that they have youth and health? 1000 years is a hell of a long time. In fact, I'd argue it's near the definition of hell and what Satan would offer for your soul.

You can do whatever you like. I already explained this. When death is not in the way, your option expand exponentially. You want to study nuclear physics? Go for it. Want to give being a musician a try? Why not! You're never too old for anything. You can travel. You can live in a virtual world for a while. You can do many things that society now rejects (join gladiators league!). You can do things we haven't even conceived of. You don't have to work a job you hate just to make ends meat for 1000 years.
 
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