His gay marriage stance and actions on immigration were clearly political moves. They were the right moves but he did them at a time that it would be most beneficial to him. Smart.
I'll take it though.
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His gay marriage stance and actions on immigration were clearly political moves. They were the right moves but he did them at a time that it would be most beneficial to him. Smart.
I'll take it though.
No but you have no real concern that what you said is true. For you having something to attack Obama with is good enough.
You're asserting that they will at the same or greater rate ad infinitum because they have been over the short term. And also not addressing something like alternative energy, for instance. That's what's being disagreed with, and why you're roundly laughed at.
Anyway, you have any pointers on living under a rock?
On gay marriage, I think he was put into a corner by Biden but that is what he's believed the whole time. It is an unfortunate reality in politics that sometimes you have to find a middle-ground on positions to be electable, and it was only two presidential elections ago that Americans opposed legally recognized same sex unions by about 65/35 (which I think saying is "overwhelmingly against" is pretty accurate). We've come an astonishingly far way in a short time on the issue.
I'd buy that.
Gay marriage and pot both approved in 2 states by voters. We have come far indeed but have miles and miles to go.
No doubt. And the greatest progress we can make at this point is not on matters of freedoms, but getting government to function and getting the electorate to be able to have a real conversation. I hope enough people out there have the same mentality but I have my doubts.
Beantown
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I said if Obama repeats his four years thats what will happen.
Why should I believe that Obama will do a complete 180 in the next four years?
Any movement forward will be by the people in spite of the government.
So you agree that four years from now, our economy will be adding 1,150,000 jobs every month, and you oppose this? Why do you hate America?
Maybe. Probably. Whatever it takes. And elected officials sometimes need a cue from their constituents on their path.
and corporations...
"Corporations are people, my friend."
You do realize that a "corporation" is simply a business that has been legally incorporated. There are many "corporations" in the U.S. that consist of president, VP and secretary that are husband, wife, and a child. Sounds pretty damn evil to me...
Let them hunt their boogeymen.
You'll get that evil corporate boogeyman one day and then you can hang him from the nearest tree. Then, in the absence of corporations people will no longer know greed and desire. Starvation, sure. Super expensive products, sure. Inefficient American industry, sure. But Greed was invented by corporations and only exists to allow them to further their sinister plan to destroy their customers lives.
********. That's more a testament to who you hang with than a geo-demographic fact.
Can't believe how ignorant some of your posts have been lately. Disappointed based on the opinion I had formed of you. You're better than this past week, right?
Gyp Rosetti
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He never said the people who made the comments were friends of his, let alone acquaintances. And if you don't think the South isn't more racist-heavy than in other places in our country, I don't think you've gotten out of the UK practice facilities enough. Can this be proven? I'm not so sure. Is it obvious? Yes, to anyone with half a brain.