Sandy Braille
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Also, please give me a list of all-stars selected at the 9th and 12th picks of the NBA draft *rolls eyes*
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^Those.
Also, what is the infatuation with all-star? Going back two seasons I said we have contender quality role players/starters but lack a player, maybe two. We don't need Hayward, Favors, or Kanter to be anything more than what they are.. and then another couple players .. and we have the ability to do that.
Where we screwed up was last year.. but that's a dead horse.
Also, what is the infatuation with all-star? Going back two seasons I said we have contender quality role players/starters but lack a player, maybe two. We don't need Hayward, Favors, or Kanter to be anything more than what they are.. and then another couple players .. and we have the ability to do that.
Where we screwed up was last year.. but that's a dead horse.
Ron Boone
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Its those writers from SLCDunk that are preaching the sky is falling ****. Follow any of them on twitter and they will drive you crazy. The moment you attempt to call them out on twitter; you get attacked for "following the company line" like Locke. Now, I am not a huge fan of Ty; but I had to start staying away from twitter during games because I couldn't stand the **** being spewed from all of them. If you follow Diana Allen, she is the worst. She expects everyone to agree with her opinion; but the moment you bring a different opinion to her; she tells you to stop telling her how to be a fan and blocks you. Some of the worst **** i've seen.
DutchJazzer
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Sandy Braille
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Twitter is brutally polarized with jazz fandom, save for JazzBasketball1 (Vslice). For every Diana Allen, there is also a LostTacoVendor who calls Jefferson Olajuwon.
DutchJazzer
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jefferson = olajuwan?
dont be ridiculous
jefferson is clearly more chamberlain like
b_line
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Not 100% sure, but I think the tacovendor is joking. I don't use twitter though. I just got real sick of reading all the crap on slc dunk. It's like all the threads started on this site would get their own featured article, but its even more conjecture.
Ron Boone
Member
You are saving yourself a ton from avoiding twitter. I have never seen a more depressing group of sports fans than those who read SLCDunk on a daily basis. They all pine for the old days of Sloan, Karl, and John and get pissed when things have evolved. Diana is the worst. Never seen someone want to go back to the classic jazz days than her.
mellow
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Did you know that the last time the Warriors were in the Playoffs was when they lost to the Jazz--2007! And that trip was the first time for them in the playoffs since 1994.
3 trips in 20 seasons. In those 20 seasons they had a winning percentage of .400, and .450 since the last playoffs in 2007.
In the playoffs Barnes (20) & Thompson (22) have played significant minutes, but Ezelie, Machado, Green, Bazemore (22-23) have not. Curry is 24, Bogut 28, Lee, Jack & Landry are all 29.
3 trips in 20 seasons. In those 20 seasons they had a winning percentage of .400, and .450 since the last playoffs in 2007.
In the playoffs Barnes (20) & Thompson (22) have played significant minutes, but Ezelie, Machado, Green, Bazemore (22-23) have not. Curry is 24, Bogut 28, Lee, Jack & Landry are all 29.
green
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Dirk
McGrady
Marion
Stoudemire
Iguodala
Joakim Noah
There is a pretty chance you get an All-Star at 9. Paul George was picked #10.
Also, missing on one top 10 pick is ok. But all three?
p.s. I'm not so much ripping on the picks themselves but the development of those picks.
Also, I never mentioned #12. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.
green
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You missed the point of the post. My issue isn't the picks made, but how the assets obtained from that trade have been used (they haven't). I've stated multiple times that I think Kanter will be a top three big man in a couple of years. I've stated I think Favor's floor is a better Chandler. So why aren't the Jazz issuing these assets? Why did Hayward's minutes drop this year? What was the point of trading Deron the last two years if you do not get anything worthwhile in return?
Basically my point is the Jazz have wasted the last two years with Al, Millsap, Howard, Bell, Foye, Marvin and Mo. They would have better off to keep Deron. At least they would have been a higher seed last year and made the playoffs this year.
green
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Everyone here whines about how they don't want to tank because they don't want the Jazz to turn into the Timberwolves when the personnel decisions the past two years have been very Minnesota-like.
Playing the young guys is more Pop, OKC, LA, etc.
Playing Al and Paul over better, younger players is very Minnesota, Charlotte, GS.
Playing the young guys is more Pop, OKC, LA, etc.
Playing Al and Paul over better, younger players is very Minnesota, Charlotte, GS.
Next year has so much potential for this team.
b_line
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lots of games? more games than any Jazz team has in the past few years? 2 conference finals? Defensive player of the year? Rookie of the year? Only one team can win it all every year.
b_line
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Aside from Dirk, I expect our young guys to be every bit as good as those players were. Favors is well on his way, Hayward is contributing a ton, and will have another good year coming up, and Kanter seems to have tons of potential. We may never have a scorer like McGrady, or as good a wing defender as Iggy, but overall production, I expect our young guys to at least approach everyone but Dirk on your list.
carolinajazz
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.....evolved? If anything it's "de-evolution"! Things have "changed" but certainly not for the better! Stockton and Malone are not coming through those doors, that's for sure! But if the Jazz expect fanz to pay good money for there product, they need to make some serious changes, which must include an immediate coaching change! Oh, and don't sign anymore dead weight to long term contracts!
b_line
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Who did they sign to long term contracts recently? The only "dead weight" contract we have signed anyone to in the last 10 years was AK, and he was just over valued. He was a good player, maybe worth 10-12 million per year. They have traded for some guys that had a couple years left, but not really signed anyone.
Ron Boone
Member
I still give Ty an I for the season. Yes, there are times he drove me nuts with his insane rotations and other ****ty decisions. But, i want to give him one more season to see what happens. And what are these dead weight long term contracts?? If you want to refer to AK as one; which is gone thank goodness.
So the changes you want to make are: Fire Ty and get SVG right? Get rid of long term contracts....which are non existant on this roster... what else? Bring back Jerry? Looking for a throwback to classic Jazz times i take it.