What's new

5 year old kills 2 year old sister... with a birthday present.

Mandating that guns must be relinquished will likely elicit cooperation only from those who are the most responsible with their firearms in the first place. I would be surprised if such an action was able to recover 10% of privately owned guns.

I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?
 
This is tough question which I am not sure I am able to answer - Stoked pointed that I do no understand americans which in a way is true. I probably would start at creating gun registry/licensing system, more thorough background checks and psychological assessement prior issuing weapons. Maybe limit amount of guns to 1 per person - that should be plenty for self defense purposes. Promote and encourage usage of non fatal guns like gas guns for self defense.
I am more interested what you guys think needs to be done - as it is I am ok with gun control laws in my country.

Link mental health and felony records to background checks
Remove gun free zones.
Have all local schools, from headstart - universities, coordinate with local PD to get an officer on campus during operating hours.
Require a shooting course designed to demonstrate familiarity of the weapon before issuing a CC.
Make one states CC recognized by all others
Improve the mental health screening and assistance availability to people starting when they are in high school.
Promote a national gun safety program. Like hunters ed but on a larger scale.
 
I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?

I questioned this as well. His claification leads me to think that of those who do comply they will be from amoung the most responsible. Not that all responsible owners would comply.
 
This is tough question which I am not sure I am able to answer - Stoked pointed that I do no understand americans which in a way is true. I probably would start at creating gun registry/licensing system, more thorough background checks and psychological assessement prior issuing weapons. Maybe limit amount of guns to 1 per person - that should be plenty for self defense purposes. Promote and encourage usage of non fatal guns like gas guns for self defense.

That's great, but none of those measures address guns already in the hands of American citizens. I've said it twice already, but what the heck... 300+ million.

I am more interested what you guys think needs to be done.

Personally, I think we need to quit dancing around the root problem. I've stated before, I'm okay with thorough background checks. But I think the problem lies much deeper in the American psyche. We've gotten to a point where we're either afraid to offend anyone (lest the wrath of the nation come down upon us) or basically apathetic toward others. So, instead of certain behaviors being recognized as abnormal, they're "different" or "unique", and are allowed to go unchecked, or just ignored. Then someone flips out and commits a heinous act, and everyone panics. Logic goes out the window, and opportunistic partisan politics use it it to grind their agenda. And now that the country is so polarized, politically, instead of looking for real solutions, we'd rather get in slap fights about whether or not the 2nd amendment is still valid.
 
I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?

No. Not even close. I am not going to ride this tangent with you, Brow.
 
We've gotten to a point where we're either afraid to offend anyone (lest the wrath of the nation come down upon us) or basically apathetic toward others. So, instead of certain behaviors being recognized as abnormal, they're "different" or "unique", and are allowed to go unchecked, or just ignored. Then someone flips out and commits a heinous act, and everyone panics.

So, we would need to intervene with these people somehow?
 
So, we would need to intervene with these people somehow?

If it's possible, yes. But it goes beyond just people who may or may not snap, emotionally. A big part of the problem is how we treat each other. Everyone contributes, one way or the other.

We need to stop being so mean and impatient. Stop neglecting. Stop bullying.

We are reaping the fruits of our behavior.
 
If it's possible, yes. But it goes beyond just people who may or may not snap, emotionally. A big part of the problem is how we treat each other. Everyone contributes, one way or the other.

We need to stop being so mean and impatient. Stop neglecting. Stop bullying.

We are reaping the fruits of our behavior.
Unfortunately, the mental health system in this country is woefully inadequate. Not saying we must go back to the days of forcibly incarcerating a ton of people in institutions, but that may be the case for some. My wife in the ER deals with the dregs of society every day. Many are in their state because they refuse help, refuse to take meds to help them manage their conditions, but beg for meds that will help them escape the consequences of their decisions - i.e. strong narcotics and painkillers.
 
If it's possible, yes. But it goes beyond just people who may or may not snap, emotionally. A big part of the problem is how we treat each other. Everyone contributes, one way or the other.

We need to stop being so mean and impatient. Stop neglecting. Stop bullying.

We are reaping the fruits of our behavior.

I agree but I also see the opposite side as the case as well, as you pointed out. Stop condoning/excusing aggressive and/or reckless behaviour.
 
I believe you would significantly decrease fatalities. Even single life saved is a win in my book.

And an increase of the number of rapes, etc. A woman with a gun is the equal of any man. Without it a 95 pounds petite woman against a 200 lbs man has no real chance.
 
Back
Top