Trouble in Brazil

[Gameface]

Neg repped. And rest assured, more will be coming. You deserve at least 5 more after this horrible post.

Try telling these people that they're being petty when it's explained to them that they must come up with $5 billion more to build extravagant stadiums (which they will never attend) while they live in these conditions:

Middle-class favela. Not even close to the worst I've seen. Many LDS missionaries live and work in these places.

Horrible sewer system. Typically 3-5 times per month we'd have flooding in Sao Paulo (their biggest city) due to rains and the horrible sewer system. People die in these btw.

Line to a doctor's office.

Public school

But yeah. These poor people sure are being petty.

Someone didn't get the sarcasm...

 

[franklin]

Neg repped. And rest assured, more will be coming. You deserve at least 5 more after this horrible post.

Try telling these people that they're being petty when it's explained to them that they must come up with $5 billion more to build extravagant stadiums (which they will never attend) while they live in these conditions:

I wasn't addressing their actual situation, just that poor people in general are petty. They tend to fight over tedious b.s. and spend effort worrying about the dumbest things instead of improving their own conditions. But you can read it however it best suits your agenda. You always do.

Pos repping Franklin* to negate people being dense. That should cover you for two negs.

The only thing that feels better than a Stoked pos rep is a Shriller neg!

 

[Deleted member 365]

Not far from one of the main stadiums in Sao Paulo. Yay! Lets build more stadiums and pray that it doesn't rain because the $5 billion used on stadiums wasn't used for the sewer system.

Keep in mind, this is one of the largest industrial centers in the entire world. Ford, Chevy, Volkswagon, Mercedes, all have big bases here in this city.

Stop bitching about the increase!

ahhhhh! Home sweet home! Where The Thriller's mission all started. This was my first area. After one of those rainstorms, one of these homes actually fell into the canal. I heard that 3 children inside were killed. But be quiet, we need to pay for the Olympics and world cup!

 

[mellow]

I wasn't addressing their actual situation, just that poor people in general are petty. They tend to fight over tedious b.s. and spend effort worrying about the dumbest things instead of improving their own conditions. But you can read it however it best suits your agenda. You always do.

Franklin, I have a generally favorable impression of you, therefore I really hope I am missing a joke or the sarcasm here.

 

[Stoked]

Main problem I have with Thrillers comment is the appearance of blaming this all on the Olympics and the spending associated with that. The problems were in place long before Olympic spending.

 

[Deleted member 365]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGXjNCGiEVw

Best video I've ever seen on this.

This favela lies right across the street (literally) from one of the richest communities in all of Brazil. I remember looking from an amazing condo below onto this favela. It was the first time I had ever seen something like this (after wards, I discovered that the majority of my areas had places like these). I couldn't do anything but just stare at it. It was HUGE. And it just erupted from a surrounding area of amazing homes and condos that you'd find in an otherwise rich part of town.

I encourage everyone to watch this short 3 minute video. It will give you a unique insight that very few people will ever have. This video should be mandatory for all missionaries who will serve in South America.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Main problem I have with Thrillers comment is the appearance of blaming this all on the Olympics and the spending associated with that. The problems were in place long before Olympic spending.

Absolutely, you are correct.

However, the frustrations have boiled over now because of the outright slap in the face for most Brazilians.

Whereas before, they knew that their government was corrupt... Now it's just outright slaps in the face and kicks in the groins. They are spending over $1 trillion on Olympic and World Cup stuff (much of it is being lost to corruption, pathetic contractors, and politicians) while throwing tax increase upon tax increase onto the Brazilian people.

Whereas before, their government was "just" corrupt. Now they're giving the people "the finger" by obtaining these world games, throwing the cost onto people who will never reap the rewards from them, and investing them on petty games that will be over in a few weeks.

I think Brazilians would be fine paying these higher taxes if they KNEW that the money would be used for the right purposes. Brazilians for years have been calling for public works. However, they have been told that the money just isn't there. Now they're seeing that the money is there but it depends on the government's priorities.

 

[Stoked]

I served in Honduras and it is mostly one giant favela. So I agree that they just finally had enough. Poor food quality, poor medical quality, dirt floors, dirt walls, doors are a worn, ripped sheet, no water system, little to education, blatant police corruption in places they even bother to make an appearance, extreme gang violence and gang rule of entire neighborhoods...

 

[franklin]

Franklin, I have a generally favorable impression of you, therefore I really hope I am missing a joke or the sarcasm here.

You can look down your nose at me if you'd like to.

Education and affluence go hand in hand, and help people rise above the things that hurt our feel goods but don't really matter much. Helps with the pride and compromise part too. Don't know why that's so offensive, but whatever, go education rah rah.


And yes, I was being sarcastic about the bus fare. I have plenty of compassion for the poor in this world, especially in corrupt places like India where they live in squalor outside the walls of huge palaces. But Shriller threw a tizzy, so...

 

[DutchJazzer]

While millions live in favelas (ghettos. To have a taste of what that's like, watch the beginning of Hulk.) and struggle to make ends meet, billions are wasted in the construction of soccer stadiums and corrupt contractors who are "preparing" the country for the World Cup and Olympics.

"cidade de dues"(city of god)
and "tropa elite" heck even modern warfare 2 the favellas are portrayed better then in hulk and fast five

 

[Deleted member 848]

You can look down your nose at me if you'd like to.

Education and affluence go hand in hand, and help people rise above the things that hurt our feel goods but don't really matter much. Helps with the pride and compromise part too. Don't know why that's so offensive, but whatever, go education rah rah.


And yes, I was being sarcastic about the bus fare. I have plenty of compassion for the poor in this world, especially in corrupt places like India where they live in squalor outside the walls of huge palaces. But Shriller threw a tizzy, so...

So what was you point then? Having a little trouble trying to figure it out. Sounded like you just wanted to troll Thriller, but now you're saying poor people complain about petty things when they should focus on education?

 

[Stoked]

So what was you point then? Having a little trouble trying to figure it out. Sounded like you just wanted to troll Thriller, but now you're saying poor people complain about petty things when they should focus on education?

Or focus on the real problems. But I see that as a problem that is not exclusive to the poor.