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[The Midnight]

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I walked away from a church and a faith I was raised in a few years ago. Hardest thing Ive ever done, those close to me didn't understand, however it was the best thing I've ever done for myself.

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I believe in god, its his fan club I'm not so crazy about. I'm all for religion but in my case I prefer it to be one on one.

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Thank you very much for your very honest input.. this is where I'm at as well..


I've certainly faced my fair share of "the fan club" who goes to church and praises God, and yet treats other people like ****. It didn't use to bother me, but a recent incident is pushing me over the edge...


I'm still deciding what to do / where to go next... I still do believe in God, but yeah,.. it's not easy.

 

[UGLI baby]

Guys.. has anyone faced faith failure? Doubts in your belief? Or do you know of anybody who has?


How did you deal with it? How did you come out of it?


Would really love your input.

Of course bro.

God doesn't change, but your Faith does.

If I'm in a spot where I'm like "I believe in God, but WTF is going on right now?" and I feel cloudy or confused, I know that I need to spend time in The Word and praise God.

So then Faith comes through hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. -Romans 10:17

One thing I like to do is read The Psalms out loud.

You can't reason your way through Faith, look inward, or any of that BS. Faith is a force, it's something that you can possess, It's more than just a belief in something, and it only comes from God.

I could go on about this a lot, but wouldn't want to be preachy about it.

Have you ever heard of Bill Winston? Youtube some of his sermons on Faith if you haven't.

 

[The Midnight]

Of course bro.

God doesn't change, but your Faith does.

If I'm in a spot where I'm like "I believe in God, but WTF is going on right now?" and I feel cloudy or confused, I know that I need to spend time in The Word and praise God.

So then Faith comes through hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. -Romans 10:17

One thing I like to do is read The Psalms out loud.

You can't reason your way through Faith, look inward, or any of that BS. Faith is a force, it's something that you can possess, It's more than just a belief in something, and it only comes from God.

I could go on about this a lot, but wouldn't want to be preachy about it.

Have you ever heard of Bill Winston? Youtube some of his sermons on Faith if you haven't.

That's one way to do it.. but at the end of the day after all that's said and done you're still left with this "But do we really know for certain?" doubt. How do we know David didn't just "make/dream up" the Psalms, for example...

May be there was a God who created the Universe, but how certain are we that it was a Christian God?

If he is merciful, why doesn't he reveal himself to us more often, and to more of us who hasn't seen/experienced? Wouldn't that be a good way of ensuring we have a relationship with him?

Etc, etc, etc...

 

[Mrs Jason]

Thank you very much for your very honest input.. this is where I'm at as well..


I've certainly faced my fair share of "the fan club" who goes to church and praises God, and yet treats other people like ****. It didn't use to bother me, but a recent incident is pushing me over the edge...


I'm still deciding what to do / where to go next... I still do believe in God, but yeah,.. it's not easy.

My decision had everything to do with the fact that I could not support or be a part of something that preached love and acceptance but practiced judgement and intolerance. I lost someone very close to me because of it and watch daily as people I love, good people, are denied the love, acceptance and respect they deserve "in the name of God". It's just not right.

 

[UGLI baby]

That's one way to do it.. but at the end of the day after all that's said and done you're still left with this "But do we really know for certain?" doubt. How do we know David didn't just "make/dream up" the Psalms, for example...

May be there was a God who created the Universe, but how certain are we that it was a Christian God?

If he is merciful, why doesn't he reveal himself to us more often, and to more of us who hasn't seen/experienced? Wouldn't that be a good way of ensuring we have a relationship with him?

Etc, etc, etc...

I dont follow you.

Not looking to debate anything, was offering encouragement.



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[addictionary]

You see that's the dilemma of faith and religion. Religion may look like it's about community, but it is actually about the faith and relationship between you and God. If people and personal experiences let you down on its legitimateness, you should remember that even if no one remembers the right way to comprehend the religion's original philosophy , it'll always be there regardless of the communities and religious leaders that are taking it away from its route or use it as an exploitation tool.

 

[The Midnight]

I dont follow you.

Not looking to debate anything, was offering encouragement.



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Thanks bro, no problem.

 

[sirkickyass]

My decision had everything to do with the fact that I could not support or be a part of something that preached love and acceptance but practiced judgement and intolerance. I lost someone very close to me because of it and watch daily as people I love, good people, are denied the love, acceptance and respect they deserve "in the name of God". It's just not right.

Good for you. This is the only way that institutions change. It has to be clear that exclusion will eventually threaten their existence.

 

[The Midnight]

You see that's the dilemma of faith and religion. Religion may look like it's about community, but it is actually about the faith and relationship between you and God. If people and personal experiences let you down on its legitimateness, you should remember that even if no one remembers the right way to comprehend the religion's original philosophy , it'll always be there regardless of the communities and religious leaders that are taking it away from its route or use it as an exploitation tool.

Yep pretty much this. Thanks for your contribution.

 

[The Midnight]

Good for you. This is the only way that institutions change. It has to be clear that exclusion will eventually threaten their existence.

But they'll always look at you as if there's something wrong with you though. They'll hardly ever look within themselves and admit anything.


But yeah, I'm glad Mrs. Jason shared that story.

 

[Mrs Jason]

But they'll always look at you as if there's something wrong with you though. They'll hardly ever look within themselves and admit anything.


But yeah, I'm glad Mrs. Jason shared that story.

Yes they will. Still happens to me to this day. Not everyone will have the eye (and heart) opening experience I was able to have. In the end I know I'm being true to myself and doing my best to be a good person, knowing something is out there but just taking it day by day and that is what gets me through.

 

[The Midnight]

I wasn't raised with religion, but common sense morality owes almost everything to Christianity, so I was haunted by "belief" issues anyway. But, no, I definitely do not believe in a Christian god.

Any particular reason why it's the "Christian God" that you don't particularly believe in?