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14th Tank Platoon

UGLI baby said:
Yeah, thats kind of my point.

They knew they were going to be without Peyton Manning and intentionally went with a roster that included no NFL calibre QB's. That's tanking from an organizational level, and I think that is totally acceptable.

BTW, the Colts started the season 0-13 that year, then when they were already assured the #1 pick they won 2 games in a row.

Everyone knew what they were doing and it was the right thing for them to do.
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But the thing you could argue with the Colts is they had no need to groom a good backup with Manning (before he was injured he may have been the most durable QB in NFL history) and they went and got Kerry Collins who was an OK QB at one time. That being said I don't think there was a QB on the market that would have gave the Colts anything but the worst record in the league.

And a small nitpick, but if the Colts would have won their last game against the Jags they would have got the #2 pick. Thank god they didn't.
 
colton said:
I don't think the Jazz would match a max offer, but then I also don't think Hayward will get a max offer. I do think it's pretty likely that (a) the Jazz will match whatever offer he gets, and (b) the bulk of the people here on jazzfanz (myself included) will feel that they overpaid.
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a) Agree
b) Inevitable
 
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The next 11 day are going to be BIG!

I don't think the Cavs have any intension to tank what so ever. They fired their GM and are on a 4 game winning street. They will beat the 76ers, hopefully they can do some damage against the east PO teams and than beat us on Feb, 28.

The 76ers are too bad! At this point I just hope they lose against the Cavs and the Magic so they don't mix things up.

Now Orlando is a different ball game. They have some talent and if we play our cards right we somehow could be worser than they are. They could win 3 in a row and they actually wanna beat NYK because of the draft pick situation. And as I mensioned above because the Cavs have no intension to lose it wouldn't be bad if the Magic can get a W in that game as well.

I'm not talking bout dem Bucks no moe.

We have to lose all of the next games.

The Kings, Lakers and Celtics situation sucks!
 
best case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Utah Jazz
#5: Orlando Magic
#6: Boston Celtics
#7: Sacramento Kings

worst case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Orlando Magic
#5: Boston Celtics
#6: Sacramento Kings
#7: Utah Jazz

And I don't see us passing the Cavs or some other team. We'll at least get the 7th. Sucks though...
 
Primetime said:
best case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Utah Jazz
#5: Orlando Magic
#6: Boston Celtics
#7: Sacramento Kings

worst case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Orlando Magic
#5: Boston Celtics
#6: Sacramento Kings
#7: Utah Jazz

And I don't see us passing the Cavs or some other team. We'll at least get the 7th. Sucks though...
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I don't think thats the worst case scenario. Jazz will probably end up around 7-8, but they are at 7 now and are 1 game away from being 9th, so they can definitely end up around 10. I think worse case is 10 though.
 
sgjazzfan said:
I don't think thats the worst case scenario. Jazz will probably end up around 7-8, but they are at 7 now and are 1 game away from being 9th, so they can definitely end up around 10. I think worse case is 10 though.
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10th would mean we'll pass the best non PO team out of the east and that would be the Pistons and the Knicks. The Knicks have not a draft pick so they wanna win, the Pistons just let there coach go because they wanna reach the POs and the Cavs wanna win as well. Now if they don't start intentionally losing I don't see us passing them. Especially with our up comunig schedule in March!

So I think the 7th bad record is safe but that's just me.
 
sgjazzfan said:
I don't think thats the worst case scenario. Jazz will probably end up around 7-8, but they are at 7 now and are 1 game away from being 9th, so they can definitely end up around 10. I think worse case is 10 though.
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This.
I could see us passing new orleans, detroit, and cleveland.

I dont thinks it really likely but the jazz are good enough when healthy to be better than all 3 of those teams.

I agree the best case is 4th
I think the most likely is 7th
And worst case is 10th
 
7th would suck, there is probably one all star from this point through the rest of the lottery and, as good as DL is, give him about a 10% chance to get it right.
 
sgjazzfan said:
I don't think thats the worst case scenario. Jazz will probably end up around 7-8, but they are at 7 now and are 1 game away from being 9th, so they can definitely end up around 10. I think worse case is 10 though.
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Agree. Sure the Pistons, Cavs and Knicks want to win. That's been the case the entire year. But they haven't been winning.
Utah likely wins a few more shortly after the break and we have a major meltdown on the board with several "Fire Lindsey" threads. Truth is, Utah was never as bad as that 1-14 start. Even had Burke not been hurt, I only see a couple more games that Utah may have won. It was a brutal schedule. Lately it's been light. In a couple of weeks it toughens up again. Utah should have been in the 25-30 win range given their roster and that is exactly where they're headed.
 
I see the Jazz finishing with 7 or 8 more wins. That would put them in the 26/27 win-range and probably means they can hold off Sacto and Boston to start with the 5th seed.

Burke is hitting the rookie wall. Hayward's shooting is streaky at best. Marvin probably can't keep up with this level of play. The 'vets' will probably get less PT after the trade deadline. The question is whether Burks is going to keep torching teams.
 
Catchall said:
I see the Jazz finishing with 7 or 8 more wins. That would put them in the 26/27 win-range and probably means they can hold off Sacto and Boston to start with the 5th seed.
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Would be great.... but i doubt it happens
 
Catchall said:
I see the Jazz finishing with 7 or 8 more wins. That would put them in the 26/27 win-range and probably means they can hold off Sacto and Boston to start with the 5th seed.

Burke is hitting the rookie wall. Hayward's shooting is streaky at best. Marvin probably can't keep up with this level of play. The 'vets' will probably get less PT after the trade deadline. The question is whether Burks is going to keep torching teams.
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We are going to go 7-23 or 8-22 over the last 30 games of the season?

k.
 
Primetime said:
best case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Utah Jazz
#5: Orlando Magic
#6: Boston Celtics
#7: Sacramento Kings

worst case scenario:

#1: Milwaukee Bucks
#2: LA Lakers
#3: Philadelphia 76ers
#4: Orlando Magic
#5: Boston Celtics
#6: Sacramento Kings
#7: Utah Jazz

And I don't see us passing the Cavs or some other team. We'll at least get the 7th. Sucks though...
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Um, #7 is far from the worst case scenario.

Right now I say best case scenario is #7, worst case #10
 
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