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I didn't watch either of them play in college-- are Kyle Anderson and Draymond Green similar in any way?
 
I didn't watch either of them play in college-- are Kyle Anderson and Draymond Green similar in any way?

In short, no.

(edit) the more I think about it, you could come up with some similarities.

My initial answer was no, because Green was a PF in college, while KA was a PG/SG/SF. However, despite Green being more a power player and KA a guard with legit pg abilities, they are both stat stuffers, triple double threats.

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In short, no.

(edit) the more I think about it, you could come up with some similarities.

My initial answer was no, because Green was a PF in college, while KA was a PG/SG/SF. However, despite Green being more a power player and KA a guard with legit pg abilities, they are both stat stuffers, triple double threats.

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People thought that Green couldn't defend a position when he made it to the NBA-- but he was a versatile offensive force, and he was worth a 2nd rounder.

From what I can tell, Anderson seems a little better offensively, has better size, but has the same question marks defensively.


While there is no guarantee that Anderson will follow a progression similar to Green, let's remind ourselves that Draymond Green was a stud this year, and completely outplayed Harrison Barnes (who was drafted ~30 picks earlier, in this same draft) in the first round this year. I like his game, and I would not hesitate to draft a taller, better-passing Draymond Green with potentially worse defense. Who knows.

Just a comparison I was thinking about, I suppose.
 
In short, no.

(edit) the more I think about it, you could come up with some similarities.

My initial answer was no, because Green was a PF in college, while KA was a PG/SG/SF. However, despite Green being more a power player and KA a guard with legit pg abilities, they are both stat stuffers, triple double threats.

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Green is a big body SF/PF who slimmed down and improved his athletic ability after college.

Anderson is a tall, slow guard. They both have stat stuffing games but Anderson makes me think about Andre Kirlenko if he was a below average NBA athlete.
 
They are similarly built, Draymond is a better defender and more of a blue collar type, Anderson is better at creating offense and passing
 
What was said about Draymond before he was drafted:

Unfortunately, Green's defensive deficiencies have become even more pronounced as a senior. At 6'7, he is too small to guard elite post players, and lacks the lateral quickness to defend perimeter players, even face-up power forwards at the NCAA level. While his effort and aggressiveness will never be questioned, it is difficult to project him as an adequate NBA defender at this time.

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Defensively, Green has some very good things going for him—mainly his terrific timing and soft hands, things that allow him to contribute significantly in terms of making plays on the court and getting his team extra possessions. He's an excellent rebounder (12.3 per-40p), particularly on the defensive end, and gets quite a few blocks (1.5 per-40p) and steals (1.9 per-40p) thanks to his ability to anticipate with his terrific feel for the game.

Unfortunately, Green's physical limitations make it quite difficult to project him as being anything more than a liability on this end of the floor in the NBA. His lack of size means he's quite easy to post up and just shoot over the top of even at the NCAA level, and his poor lateral quickness makes it tough to envision him being able to guard most power forwards on the perimeter or even less likely small forwards, which his height suggests he'd have to. This will be a major hurdle for Green to overcome, and it's not quite clear whether a NBA team will be able to get past this issue, despite what he contributes in various other facets of the game.

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And now, for Anderson:


With that said, the biggest questions surrounding Anderson's pro potential revolve around his play on the defensive end, specifically, who he will be able to guard at the NBA level. While Anderson's length and anticipation skills allow him to generate plenty of blocks and steals, his lateral quickness is as poor as any player in this draft class. He's extremely upright in his defensive stance, and he allows opposing players to blow right by him like he's simply invisible at times. Because of his struggles getting low and staying in front of opponents, reaching for steals is usually Anderson's most effective strategy, something NBA teams are certain to go after and try to exploit regularly. In college his coaches would often try to “hide him” by putting him on big men or non-scorers, which might not work quite as well in the more physically gifted and talented NBA.

From what I've read, the players that blow past him tend to be guards, which would probably be able to blow past Draymond as well.


Hmmm.


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The combine measurements make me want Payne even more with the 23rd pick, but I personally suspect we will do a 2 for 1 trade to move up. Something like #23 and 35 for #18 or 19. That would give us 2 top 20 picks to add to an already young team. Otherwise we trade away one for a later year or do a draft and stash overseas. I just cannot see us using all three picks and all three players making the roster this coming season.
 
The combine measurements make me want Payne even more with the 23rd pick, but I personally suspect we will do a 2 for 1 trade to move up. Something like #23 and 35 for #18 or 19. That would give us 2 top 20 picks to add to an already young team. Otherwise we trade away one for a later year or do a draft and stash overseas. I just cannot see us using all three picks and all three players making the roster this coming season.

To get Mcdaniels or TJ Warren? I would love that.
 
They asked DL what Jazz are looking for/what needs to be filled. He said shooting and something else I don't remember, and a statement about basically everything, but that they have a lot of chips and may fill the needs by the draft or a veteran by trading (mainly refering to the two later picks). He feels that even if they slip a little in lottery, Jazz can get what they need as far as athletisim and talent. He also mentioned that Jazz tradition is that rookies have to wait their turn (mentioning Stockton, Hayward, Alec Burks). He then reiterated that they could go for a vet.

Lastly, they asked if John Stockton was being considered for head coach - DL shut them down pretty quick and said "No comment on the coaching search."

Bloody freakin' hell; if he's going to draft a top-5 player and sit him on the bench, then I'll be leading the torch and pitchfork mob. Why did he just get rid of Corbin if the plan is to lather, rinse and repeat?
And why are they interviewing McDermott? There's likely no way to jump up from #23 to get him. Is there a plan in place to trade back? Or to take him at #7 if they fall that far?
With this and the coaching search., Lindsey has made my "watch" list. Seems like he's headed in the wrong direction.
 
Bloody freakin' hell; if he's going to draft a top-5 player and sit him on the bench, then I'll be leading the torch and pitchfork mob. Why did he just get rid of Corbin if the plan is to lather, rinse and repeat?
And why are they interviewing McDermott? There's likely no way to jump up from #23 to get him. Is there a plan in place to trade back? Or to take him at #7 if they fall that far?
With this and the coaching search., Lindsey has made my "watch" list. Seems like he's headed in the wrong direction.

Cause Mcdermott is probably going to drop like a rock.
 
barefoot

randle 6ft 7 3/4
gordon 6ft 7 1/2
smart 6ft 2
exum 6ft 4 1/2


basically i was right on all of them except gordon. i predicted gordon to be 6ft 7 even ish. gordon came in tall. bravo. i'll take any of these guys except smart. trey & smart would be smallest backcourt in the league. i don't like small back court
 
payne athletic, 6ft 9 barefoot, and skilled player.

this guy should move up on draft board.

vonleh is 6ft 8, but man love that wingspan and ginormous handsize.


anyway boozer and randle are same height except boozer has bigger wingspan and reach. oh well, boozer is still soft
 
Smart at 6'3" with a 6'9"+ wingspan is impressive. The 227 isn't surprising - he's a monster, but he carries it well.

Also Kyle Anderson at close to 6'9" with the ability to play some point is solid.


smart has a wide shoulder. standing reach is only 8ft 3.
 
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