I bet you are.
Aaron Gordon....Are you serious? Disaster.....Disaster.....
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I bet you are.
Muahahahahaha....
Hard to find any highlights of his rookie year, but here is a link to a YouTube clip from his rookie year playoff game. Nothing here changes my initial thoughts (and I have made this comparison all year to Arizona fans as well). You'll notice Pippen has the same dribble, lean through scoop shot. Gets most of his points off of put back dunks and layups. Good defender and had some nice passes. Also a bad free throw shooter. That type of game is what folks should expect for Gordon next year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M79eJyW_T0M
What most people here are not going to remember is that Pippen was not that great his rookie year. He had flashes of brilliance, and some really bad moments as well.
Also, so nobody is putting words in my mouth, I am not saying that Gordon is the next Pippen. I'm saying they are on similar levels right now. Pippen had a crazy work ethic, good coaching and a system he excelled in. Let's see if all of that combines for Gordon as well. Who knows. I do believe Gordon has the potential to warrant a #5 pick. I also think there are other players who have the talent and potential to warrant that pick.
Coach Ellis
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Grew up in Central Illinois as a die-hard Bulls fan. Loved Scottie Pippen. Easily my favorite player from that team. He was the ultimate team player. There's definitely similarities to his game in Aaron Gordon.
Key things to remember. . . Pippen started as a 6'1" PG walk-on who grew to 6'8" 200 lbs in college. He was a really skinny rookie who struggled with strength and shooting, but stood out because of his elite athleticism and hustle. Always cutting to the basket. He was a 22 year old rookie, and it took him two full years at the NBA level to break out. During that time, he bulked up and worked his *** off to fix his shot.
Aaron Gordon is 18 and ripped compared to where Pippen was as a rookie, with the same level of athleticism. I'm encouraged by Gordon's fire and work ethic. Aaron Gordon will be a 6 year NBA pro by the time he's the same age that Scottie Pippen broke out. I can easily see him working tirelessly on his shot with pro coaches and developing a really solid mid-range game. I'm perfectly happy to take him at 5, but I'd be happy with any of the top 8 prospects. The Jazz will get at least one very good player from this draft. With how young and raw all of the top prospects are, it might be a few years before we know which ones are worth the hype.
Key things to remember. . . Pippen started as a 6'1" PG walk-on who grew to 6'8" 200 lbs in college. He was a really skinny rookie who struggled with strength and shooting, but stood out because of his elite athleticism and hustle. Always cutting to the basket. He was a 22 year old rookie, and it took him two full years at the NBA level to break out. During that time, he bulked up and worked his *** off to fix his shot.
Aaron Gordon is 18 and ripped compared to where Pippen was as a rookie, with the same level of athleticism. I'm encouraged by Gordon's fire and work ethic. Aaron Gordon will be a 6 year NBA pro by the time he's the same age that Scottie Pippen broke out. I can easily see him working tirelessly on his shot with pro coaches and developing a really solid mid-range game. I'm perfectly happy to take him at 5, but I'd be happy with any of the top 8 prospects. The Jazz will get at least one very good player from this draft. With how young and raw all of the top prospects are, it might be a few years before we know which ones are worth the hype.
yamers
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Pippen hit FTs at a .684 rate.....Aaron gordon is atrocious from the line.
Batman
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Pipped hit 57% his rookie year not 68%. Proof players can improve.
yamers
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Gordon shoots 40%
he's never going to learn. He's going to get hacked down in games.
p.s. pippen had Jordan.
Pippen was good but lets not forget how stacked that team was. Gordon is no pippen...LOL
addictionary
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I don't care how talented the player's base is in the draft. The important thing is how much willing is he to improve at all sides of the game for just one purpose: win. Because these are young players and you can easily give a 20 year old 5 years to get whatever ceiling he can reach and believe me with the proper hard work in that ammount of time miracles can happen. So it's also a bit of a gamble and a continuous process in its own nature this draft thingie.
So you think Smart is a number one option on offense? Sorry but Smart's an average shooter in college. He is not a number #1 option on offense which is the claim the anti-Gordon crowd is making against Gordon. Smart is an undersize SG pretending to be a PG.
The Bulls were stacked when Pippen came aboard. What does that have to do with his shooting FTs? Pippen was 22 years old as a rookie. So Gordon has 4 years to improve to 57% (for the record Gordon shot 42 %) which is what he shot as a rookie. I certainly think he can do that and more. Gordon works his butt off and his workouts have only shown how much he has improved his shooting. All reports from his workout with the Jazz is he shot the ball really well in his workout better than expected.
Defesive IQ
Yes, but the defensive IQ only gets you so far. Elite defense requires both the knowledge, plus physical attributes: size, length, quickness, speed
Let's say Scottie Pippin (one of highest defensive IQs ever), was 6'3 (not 6'7), 6'9 wingspan (not 7'3), 39" vertical (not 48"), less lateral quickness, etc
Now you have something like Jeff Hornacek (also one of the highest defensive IQs ever)
Yes, but the defensive IQ only gets you so far. Elite defense requires both the knowledge, plus physical attributes: size, length, quickness, speed
Let's say Scottie Pippin (one of highest defensive IQs ever), was 6'3 (not 6'7), 6'9 wingspan (not 7'3), 39" vertical (not 48"), less lateral quickness, etc
Now you have something like Jeff Hornacek (also one of the highest defensive IQs ever)
Hotdog
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Not officially, but it's a pretty popular belief on the internet.
Hotdog
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Well its a pretty stupid belief then.
He didn't have a 48 in vertical.
I would like to see a picture with his head well above the rim or didn't happen.
spycam1
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fabtrey is on the case
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addictionary
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I was not thinking of the controllably lenghtenable limbs when I was saying those about the defense. That would be really cool though. I believe in the future, scientists will help the game of basketball to improve in that matter and players will grow with the proper DNA altering medication. The game will change a lot.
From the Lizard
to the space jam level
Hell they'll even have retro simulations of the players from MJ to Penny, from Cousey to Steve Francis.
Gordon is a risk. He's no sure thing. It just shows you how ****ed we are being outside the top 3.
We have to now take a huge risk. We have the go with one of the guys that has star (albeit long shot) potential.
We have to now take a huge risk. We have the go with one of the guys that has star (albeit long shot) potential.