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A. Bentley didnt put a specific scenario out there..... he simply said maybe we could still use hayward to get wiggins.

B. Exum and wiggins do not have the same chances to be franchise players. There is a reason wiggins went #1 (and most likely would have no matter who was drafting first) and exum fell to #5
WE differ on that one. Exum has ELITE size and speed for his position. Wiggins is a project, just like Exum. Exum didn't play college ball, so is a year behind developmentally. He was also an unknown to most. Before the combine, most were saying there was a "big 4" which included Wiggins, Parker, Embiid and Exum.

I'll bet you 10 rep points that within 4 years, Exum is considered every bit the player that Wiggins becomes. I say four because I think Exum is a couple of years away from being an NBA starter, just like Stockton was.
 
Exum only has elite size if he plays PG.

His speed is only elite if he plays SG.

He has an elite combination of size and speed though. No one over 6'4 will be faster than him, but there will be plenty of guys under that height who will have equivalent speed.
 
Exum only has elite size if he plays PG.

His speed is only elite if he plays SG.

He has an elite combination of size and speed though. No one over 6'4 will be faster than him, but there will be plenty of guys under that height who will have equivalent speed.

Faster combine times than Paul or Lillard. I'd say he has ELITE speed as a PG. Same or better speed than players several inches shorter and the size to post them up. Or the ability to blow by a SG if you switch up on defense. He has ELITE potential.
 
Faster combine times than Paul or Lillard. I'd say he has ELITE speed as a PG. Same or better speed than players several inches shorter and the size to post them up. Or the ability to blow by a SG if you switch up on defense. He has ELITE potential.

Burke had a faster sprint time than Exum, does that make him have elite speed also?
 
Faster combine times than Paul or Lillard. I'd say he has ELITE speed as a PG. Same or better speed than players several inches shorter and the size to post them up. Or the ability to blow by a SG if you switch up on defense. He has ELITE potential.

Do PGs post up anymore? Trying to think of examples... Westbrook?
 
There is no way that Wiggins is worth Hayward, Kanter and Exum. Exum is not that far behind Wiggins in talent. The difference is small. It doesn't matter but why would Cavs offer Hayward a huge contract if they have Waiters and Wiggins already on the roster. I guess they will try to move Waiters but it sounds pretty fishy this rumor.
 
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I remember Payton doing it a ton but doesn't seem like something that us really popular anymore. Doesn't mean it's not effective.
 
There is no way that Wiggins is worth Hayward, Kanter and Exum. Exum is not that far behind Wiggins in talent. The difference is small. It doesn't matter but why would Cavs offer Hayward a huge contract if they have Waiters and Wiggins already on the roster. I guess they will try to move Waiters but it sounds pretty fishy this rumor.

Cuz waiters sucks and likes to fight with kyrie.
 
You kind of have to have big men who can shoot so you can invert your offense if you want to post-up your PG consistently. I remember we could do it with D-Will because we had Okur. The Pistons use to do it with Wallace/Billups inverted.
 
I would so trade kanter, Hayward and one of the picks in 2017 or even next years for wiggins.

Burke, exum
burks, exum
wiggins, hood
favors, Tristan thompson
tomic, Gobert

the only way Cleveland does that if they can sign bron.

Irving
Hayward, waiters
lebron, clark
kanter, Bennett
verajao, zeller
 
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