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Hantlers said:
His choice will haunt his kids for the rest of their lives, that's who I feel bad for.
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I feel bad for them too.

I think everyone does.

I also feel bad for the person that died, that they were in so much pain that they felt they had to die
 
Hantlers said:
Dude basically told his daughter and any other family/friends that they weren't enough for him to stick it out.
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I doubt that this is what he was attempting to say to his family.

In fact he may have left them a note telling them how much he loved them...And he may have loved them with everything that he had.
 
It's sad to see someone whom I loved since I was a kid pass away.
 
I have hurt people I love, friend and family, but that never meant that I didn't love them.

Did robin Williams death hurt his loved ones? Definitely.
Does that mean that he doesn't love them? I don't think so.
 
Depression is a constant battle. A slip of thought sometimes means the end. It's not because they didn't love who or what they left behind, it's because in those "sometimes" everything seems darker than it really is. One can endure so much of those moments till they find the happiness they have been searching for.
 
franklin said:
Good. Don't coddle and encourage bad **** under the mask of pity. You think you are doing them or their family favors by encouraging?
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I probably won't ever encourage any one to commit suicide so thankfully we don't have to worry about that
 
Fwiw I'm sorry if my feelings about suicide upset you Frank. Not my intention
 
Suicide is wrong. I think we all agree here. I'm not sure what all this noise about "coddling", or "enabling" suicide is.


I can't call those who commit suicide selfish. The act is in and of itself heinous, and selfish-- but that does NOT mean that the person who committed the act is selfish as well. I find this very fact to be often forgotten, and I think it hinders us from understanding why some take their own lives, and how we can diminish suicide rates collectively.


Depression, and mental diseases altogether are extremely strange phenomena, and well probably never understand them completely. Telling an individual with a mental disorder to use "logic" to realize that one is better off pushing through than taking their own lives isn't effective -- many will quickly realize that their advice will not really diminish suicide rates to any large extent. There is nothing human about summoning the willpower to asphyxiate yourself.

Think about it. Think about how hard it is to wrap a noose around your neck, and walk off a stool. Your brain tells you "uhh dude, wtf, think about what you're doing here".


But what if you're depressed? Schizophrenic? Bipolar? You're expecting these people to have the same innate reasoning as that of an individual with a relatively-normal state of mental health.


Instead of telling people to sack up, we need to figure out what leads people to suicide, why some areas and age demographics suffer from it more than others, and what we can do to curtail this.
 
dalamon said:
I can't call those who commit suicide selfish. The act is in and of itself heinous, and selfish-- but that does NOT mean that the person who committed the act is selfish as well. I find this very fact to be often forgotten, and I think it hinders us from understanding why some take their own lives, and how we can diminish suicide rates collectively.


Depression, and mental diseases altogether are extremely strange phenomena, and well probably never understand them completely. Telling an individual with a mental disorder to use "logic" to realize that one is better off pushing through than taking their own lives isn't effective



But what if you're depressed? Schizophrenic? Bipolar? You're expecting these people to have the same innate reasoning as that of an individual with a relatively-normal state of mental health.
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Well put
 
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